Nobody likes Porsche Drivers?
Discussion
TVRJAS said:
Well now that I've looked at your profile I'll backtrack that statement directed at you then 
So you must be well aware of the difference jumping from a car with every driving aid possible (911 Turbo) to cars that have a steering wheel and a manual gearbox then
The fear of heading the other direction when your not expecting it is why we like to drive these types of cars.
Too right, the thrill from accelerating a tuned griff to 100mph far outweighs the thrill in my circa 700hp porsche in terror terms LOL even my chim which is only around 285hp keeps me on my toes, but I still think my TR6 eclipses them for enjoyment on a summers day !!!! However put the Porsche on the Ring and it all becomes clearSo you must be well aware of the difference jumping from a car with every driving aid possible (911 Turbo) to cars that have a steering wheel and a manual gearbox then
The fear of heading the other direction when your not expecting it is why we like to drive these types of cars.
Matt UK said:
Region: Cheshire.
Try moving down south, far more civilised part of the world.
Plus, everyone here has at least one Porsche for daily commuting / shopping / airport / tip runs, so you won't stick out like a sore thumb.
You've clearly not been to Cheshire recently. Porches are ten a penny, especially round Alderley Edge. Seems every other car is a Cayenne or a Q7 at times. Of course they're also largely driven by Try moving down south, far more civilised part of the world.
Plus, everyone here has at least one Porsche for daily commuting / shopping / airport / tip runs, so you won't stick out like a sore thumb.
s, i.e. WAGs and bankers, hence the negative reaction the OP gets from being lumped in with the stereotype.yonex said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Correct! a Caterham might be regarded by the general public as being a bit unusual perhaps, eccentric possibly, even ancient, but flash? expensive? (even though some of them are) No, almost definitely not.
They even managed to get on the seriously uncool board, on TG, and the despite the fact that the small number of cars ahead of the Caterham on the powerlap board (with its 1 minute 17 second lap time) were generally foreign made, multi thousand pound supercars or hypercars, the presenters still
tried to convey the idea that Caterhams, were just weird cars, for weird / geeky people.
Not the case though. Most Caterhams are driven by portly old men who are desperate to be seen as quirky. The reality is they have a good income and work as managers in mainstream business They even managed to get on the seriously uncool board, on TG, and the despite the fact that the small number of cars ahead of the Caterham on the powerlap board (with its 1 minute 17 second lap time) were generally foreign made, multi thousand pound supercars or hypercars, the presenters still
tried to convey the idea that Caterhams, were just weird cars, for weird / geeky people.
I've debunked the people who own Caterhams are hardcore by driving to an XMas meet in the snow in one, only to find the car park full of Range Rovers. Toys. On a separate point, can managers of a business not be Caterham/driving/hardcore enthusiasts?!
Edited by SidewaysSi on Sunday 31st May 18:20
SidewaysSi said:
I do largely agree though not entirely sure what makes someone "hardcore". I assume they didn't want to ruin their cars in the salt.
On a separate point, can managers of a business not be Caterham/driving/hardcore enthusiasts?!
I was merely responding to the suggestion that many Caterham owners think they are 'quirky' and are somehow different to the owner of a boxster (for example). They just aren't. On a separate point, can managers of a business not be Caterham/driving/hardcore enthusiasts?!
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 31st May 18:20
yonex said:
I was merely responding to the suggestion that many Caterham owners think they are 'quirky' and are somehow different to the owner of a boxster (for example). They just aren't.
Of course they are. They have chosen to buy a completely impractical car! It tells you a lot more than does someone buying a Boxster. To buy a Caterham, you either need to love going for a hoon or want to send some weird image of yourself. In either case, it says a lot more than buying the default roadster.ORD said:
Of course they are. They have chosen to buy a completely impractical car! It tells you a lot more than does someone buying a Boxster. To buy a Caterham, you either need to love going for a hoon or want to send some weird image of yourself. In either case, it says a lot more than buying the default roadster.
Not really. Buying a car, as a toy when you have plenty of money doesn't restrict you. A hoon in the Caterham isn't difficult when you have two or three more cars at home Isn't it more the perceived image of the Cayenne driver that's the problem, as opposed to the Cayenne itself? They often seem to be driven by people desperate to be seen as monied or B list celebrities, with a hint of gangster for good measure. Especially in white, with some atrocious body kit and various appendages tacked on. I don't think it's a perception that's only attached to Porsche's SUV offering though, as there are plenty of equally awful X5, G Wagon etc.
It's this image that people don't like, although personally I think they're pig ugly too. That said, each to their own but if I wanted a 4x4 I'd buy a Defender or Niva.
It's this image that people don't like, although personally I think they're pig ugly too. That said, each to their own but if I wanted a 4x4 I'd buy a Defender or Niva.
Edited by e21Mark on Monday 1st June 06:40
Maybe there are just some folk who think others should bow and scrape in recognition of the self-evident "superiority" of someone who has chosen to drive a distinctive/expensive car. I cannot say that I've noticed any difference in other drivers' attitude towards me whether I'm driving my RRS, poverty Pork, or big Healey. Or indeed my wife's Citroen C4 or her previous Zafira. Or for that matter the occasional anonymous rental car.
IMV, the OP needs to turn down his self-importance sensor, or maybe just buy a car that he likes rather than one that he thinks others will like or should respect. And what's a "knobead", anyway ?
IMV, the OP needs to turn down his self-importance sensor, or maybe just buy a car that he likes rather than one that he thinks others will like or should respect. And what's a "knobead", anyway ?
yonex said:
SidewaysSi said:
I do largely agree though not entirely sure what makes someone "hardcore". I assume they didn't want to ruin their cars in the salt.
On a separate point, can managers of a business not be Caterham/driving/hardcore enthusiasts?!
I was merely responding to the suggestion that many Caterham owners think they are 'quirky' and are somehow different to the owner of a boxster (for example). They just aren't. On a separate point, can managers of a business not be Caterham/driving/hardcore enthusiasts?!
Edited by SidewaysSi on Sunday 31st May 18:20
yonex said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Correct! a Caterham might be regarded by the general public as being a bit unusual perhaps, eccentric possibly, even ancient, but flash? expensive? (even though some of them are) No, almost definitely not.
They even managed to get on the seriously uncool board, on TG, and the despite the fact that the small number of cars ahead of the Caterham on the powerlap board (with its 1 minute 17 second lap time) were generally foreign made, multi thousand pound supercars or hypercars, the presenters still
tried to convey the idea that Caterhams, were just weird cars, for weird / geeky people.
Not the case though. Most Caterhams are driven by portly old men who are desperate to be seen as quirky. The reality is they have a good income and work as managers in mainstream business They even managed to get on the seriously uncool board, on TG, and the despite the fact that the small number of cars ahead of the Caterham on the powerlap board (with its 1 minute 17 second lap time) were generally foreign made, multi thousand pound supercars or hypercars, the presenters still
tried to convey the idea that Caterhams, were just weird cars, for weird / geeky people.
I've debunked the people who own Caterhams are hardcore by driving to an XMas meet in the snow in one, only to find the car park full of Range Rovers. Toys. for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
Pan Pan Pan said:
I really don't believe that most of the people who drive Caterhams want to be `seen' as anything, they buy them for the driving experience this vehicle type offers, and really don't give a monkeys
for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
For info, I didn't lose thousands, remarkably they can also be used in the wet. Aluminum covered in paint is quite sturdy...for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
yonex said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
I really don't believe that most of the people who drive Caterhams want to be `seen' as anything, they buy them for the driving experience this vehicle type offers, and really don't give a monkeys
for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
For info, I didn't lose thousands, remarkably they can also be used in the wet. Aluminum covered in paint is quite sturdy...for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
Pan Pan Pan said:
yonex said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
I really don't believe that most of the people who drive Caterhams want to be `seen' as anything, they buy them for the driving experience this vehicle type offers, and really don't give a monkeys
for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
For info, I didn't lose thousands, remarkably they can also be used in the wet. Aluminum covered in paint is quite sturdy...for how they are `seen'
As for driving them in the snow, as Caterhams are clad in aluminium, driving them in snow / salt, is not all that clever, which is why most owners don't do it, not least because for most owners a Caterham is not their daily driver. So why wipe thousands off the value of one, when you don't have to? Caterhams are generally well made but not durable if used on salt covered roads.
Pan Pan Pan said:
What? it was painted inside as well as out? I have seen painted Caterhams which `looked' OK on the outside, but were rotten underneath, Whilst they are generally well made, they are not made to be durable, with almost no factory attention given to rust proofing / long term durability beyond what the owners themselves choose to apply. Many of the smaller chassis tubes are so light, they can be punctured by a stone. The fact that many last well as they do, is much more to do with how they are used, (in particular `not' taking them out in adverse conditions, because they generally don't have to be used that way) than with how they are produced in the factory.
The most fun I ever had was in wet conditions on winter tyres. It's a shame that lots of people are scared of the odd blemish, realistically the powder coat on some of them is so poor anyway that at some point it is probably heading for an overhaul. Given the ease in rebuilding them it never bothered me, it was there to be used, and I did, as much as possible. It's not a Porsche but I don't think there is much difference between the owners, I would and have bought both.People are challenged when somebody has anything different to them. It's not a Porsche thing, it's a jealousy thing.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff