Speeding up to let others past
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jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Robb F said:
daddy cool said:
I find that when some asshat comes tearing up behind me and sits an inch from my back bumper, i coincidentally notice i need to clean my windscreen. Again, and again, and again...
Must be a real drag for them having to move their wiper stalk 15mm downwards every now and then... 
Equivalent of a bully grabbing you by the collar, and you spitting in their face, i suppose.
If I'm in L2 about to move to L3 to overtake a middle lane moron I'll flick on the indicators a good 5secs before reaching the MLM, this gives the diesel Audi in L3 a chance to either speed up/continue progress and pass before I begin my maneuver or to back off/maintain speed so that I can pull out.
I'll make sure that there is at least a 5mph speed differential between me and the MLM when passing but I don't plan on having to go from 80-85 cats per nanosecond up to license losing territory because the knobbers behind can't wait 5 seconds after I've given them plenty of time to prepare.
I'll make sure that there is at least a 5mph speed differential between me and the MLM when passing but I don't plan on having to go from 80-85 cats per nanosecond up to license losing territory because the knobbers behind can't wait 5 seconds after I've given them plenty of time to prepare.
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
daddy cool said:
Well, its not meant to cause them a major inconvenience - rather, its just a little non-verbal way of saying "yeah, i know you are there, and no, i dont feel threatened by you in your big car that you are paying off monthly".
Equivalent of a bully grabbing you by the collar, and you spitting in their face, i suppose.
Yes many people use the washers as a way of indicating that someone is a tailgating prat, in the same way that people use the horn when some prat cuts them up. Equivalent of a bully grabbing you by the collar, and you spitting in their face, i suppose.
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
Have a re-read of your second paragraph, there's a good chap. "The" overtaking lane, therefore implying there is only one. "Cruising" are you a Yank, we tend to drive over here rather than cruise.
Never mind, back to school next week
It depends really, if the car you're overtaking is doing a good few mph slower than you, no, the car being held up can wait 10 seconds until it's safe to pull back in.
If the car you're overtaking is doing more or less the same speed as you, or might even speed up slightly if they're not using cruise control, it's easy to give the accelerator a quick tap and get round them to avoid holding up a line of cars behind you.
Just comes down to common sense really.
If the car you're overtaking is doing more or less the same speed as you, or might even speed up slightly if they're not using cruise control, it's easy to give the accelerator a quick tap and get round them to avoid holding up a line of cars behind you.
Just comes down to common sense really.
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
Have a re-read of your second paragraph, there's a good chap. "The" overtaking lane, therefore implying there is only one. "Cruising" are you a Yank, we tend to drive over here rather than cruise.
Never mind, back to school next week
Cruising is not an American word for driving. It implies a particular type of driving, i.e. just covering ground at a steady speed. Overtaking is a manouver.
I think you need to a) go familiarise yourself with the Highway Code and b) have your personality erased and a new one installed.
I can sort of accept forum w
kers if I've actually said something wrong, although even then I've got little time for people like you. In this occassion I have described in my second paragraph a person using Lane 2 (or 3 of there is one) to cruise along in (Google that word if you're still struggling with it before writing more abuse my way) on their cruise control not for the conscious purpose of smartly overtaking then returning to Lane 1, but simply because they have crept up on other vehicles in Lane 1 and don't fancy hitting the minus button a couple of times.How you can interpret anything I have written as to categorise me as a middle-lane hog I have absolutely no idea.
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
Have a re-read of your second paragraph, there's a good chap. "The" overtaking lane, therefore implying there is only one. "Cruising" are you a Yank, we tend to drive over here rather than cruise.
Never mind, back to school next week
Cruising is not an American word for driving. It implies a particular type of driving, i.e. just covering ground at a steady speed. Overtaking is a manouver.
I think you need to a) go familiarise yourself with the Highway Code and b) have your personality erased and a new one installed.
I can sort of accept forum w
kers if I've actually said something wrong, although even then I've got little time for people like you. In this occassion I have described in my second paragraph a person using Lane 2 (or 3 of there is one) to cruise along in (Google that word if you're still struggling with it before writing more abuse my way) on their cruise control not for the conscious purpose of smartly overtaking then returning to Lane 1, but simply because they have crept up on other vehicles in Lane 1 and don't fancy hitting the minus button a couple of times.How you can interpret anything I have written as to categorise me as a middle-lane hog I have absolutely no idea.
I haven't read the whole thread, but the thing that really bugs me is the people who insist on pulling out in front of me, forcing me to slow down when they could have easily waited for me to pass, then pulled into the acres of space behind me.
Seems to be happening more and more. Middle-aged wimmin are the usual suspects for some reason.
Seems to be happening more and more. Middle-aged wimmin are the usual suspects for some reason.
Edited by Baz Tench on Wednesday 27th May 18:37
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
Have a re-read of your second paragraph, there's a good chap. "The" overtaking lane, therefore implying there is only one. "Cruising" are you a Yank, we tend to drive over here rather than cruise.
Never mind, back to school next week
Cruising is not an American word for driving. It implies a particular type of driving, i.e. just covering ground at a steady speed. Overtaking is a manouver.
I think you need to a) go familiarise yourself with the Highway Code and b) have your personality erased and a new one installed.
I can sort of accept forum w
kers if I've actually said something wrong, although even then I've got little time for people like you. In this occassion I have described in my second paragraph a person using Lane 2 (or 3 of there is one) to cruise along in (Google that word if you're still struggling with it before writing more abuse my way) on their cruise control not for the conscious purpose of smartly overtaking then returning to Lane 1, but simply because they have crept up on other vehicles in Lane 1 and don't fancy hitting the minus button a couple of times.How you can interpret anything I have written as to categorise me as a middle-lane hog I have absolutely no idea.
I tend to judge my driving by thinking have I made anyone brake through my actions? If I have then I've driven poorly in my view.
On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "fk you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them.
If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "f
k you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them. If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 27th May 18:52
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Wills2 said:
I tend to judge my driving by thinking have I made anyone brake through my actions? If I have then I've driven poorly in my view.
On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "fk you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them.
If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
Great post. Agree with all of that.On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "f
k you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them. If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 27th May 18:52
Edited by Baz Tench on Wednesday 27th May 18:56
DonkeyApple said:
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
SlackBladder said:
jamieduff1981 said:
If someone in an overtaking lane is making clear progress past the vehicles in the lane to their left then it's reasonable.
If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Sorry but that's exactly how you come across, a dick!!!If someone is in the overtaking lane sat on snooze control for the convenience of not having to avoid nudging the vehicles in the cruising lane, and just happen to be creeping past the vehicles to their left over a number of minutes then it's unreasonable.
I just try not to be a dick, and I am really grateful when other drivers aren't dicks too.
Overtaking lane, cruising lane?????? You're one of those middle lane morons who don't know how to drive aren't you?
Lane 1 is a cruising lane. Lane 2 is an overtaking lane. You overtake in it then move back to Lane 1 to continue cruising.
You appear to have understood the exact opposite of everything I wrote.
Have a re-read of your second paragraph, there's a good chap. "The" overtaking lane, therefore implying there is only one. "Cruising" are you a Yank, we tend to drive over here rather than cruise.
Never mind, back to school next week
Cruising is not an American word for driving. It implies a particular type of driving, i.e. just covering ground at a steady speed. Overtaking is a manouver.
I think you need to a) go familiarise yourself with the Highway Code and b) have your personality erased and a new one installed.
I can sort of accept forum w
kers if I've actually said something wrong, although even then I've got little time for people like you. In this occassion I have described in my second paragraph a person using Lane 2 (or 3 of there is one) to cruise along in (Google that word if you're still struggling with it before writing more abuse my way) on their cruise control not for the conscious purpose of smartly overtaking then returning to Lane 1, but simply because they have crept up on other vehicles in Lane 1 and don't fancy hitting the minus button a couple of times.How you can interpret anything I have written as to categorise me as a middle-lane hog I have absolutely no idea.
Baz Tench said:
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Seconded. It gets my vote too.Wills2 said:
I tend to judge my driving by thinking have I made anyone brake through my actions? If I have then I've driven poorly in my view.
On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "fk you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them.
If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
Great post. Agree with all of that.On the Motorway I won't pull out on you unless I'm certain I can move away from you in reasonable time so you don't have to slow down, I'll overtake in the shortest time the road conditions allow and indicate to you that I know you're there and will pull over when I'm done.
When coming up against slower traffic in my lane I won't drift out at a constant speed when other cars are approaching in the outside lane and I can see they are travelling faster than I want to, I'll wait.
I get the sense during my driving week that there are a lot people with "f
k you" attitudes on the motorways I try not to be one of them. If you try to be courteous on the motorway you'll be amazed by how many people thank you and acknowledge your actions in a positive way.
I would also add that crawling past other cars because you don't want to speed up and therefore blocking the progress of others is poor driving, you should assess the move before you take it and if you're not prepared to match the speed of those coming up behind you wait.
Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 27th May 18:52
I often set cruise to 75mph as well. If I'm passing someone and another vehicle approaches from behind I make a judgement call of whether it's worth speeding up.
If I'm going to complete the pass in the next 10 seconds or so, I'll keep at it. If it's going to take longer, I'll nudge the accelerator a bit and get moving.
Ideally, I wouldn't pull out in front of a car moving quick enough to be that close before I'm finished passing the slower vehicle, but sometimes we misjudge these things.
If I'm going to complete the pass in the next 10 seconds or so, I'll keep at it. If it's going to take longer, I'll nudge the accelerator a bit and get moving.
Ideally, I wouldn't pull out in front of a car moving quick enough to be that close before I'm finished passing the slower vehicle, but sometimes we misjudge these things.
romeogolf said:
I often set cruise to 75mph as well. If I'm passing someone and another vehicle approaches from behind I make a judgement call of whether it's worth speeding up.
If I'm going to complete the pass in the next 10 seconds or so, I'll keep at it. If it's going to take longer, I'll nudge the accelerator a bit and get moving.
Ideally, I wouldn't pull out in front of a car moving quick enough to be that close before I'm finished passing the slower vehicle, but sometimes we misjudge these things.
Agreed. And I very much suspect that this is what the majority of balanced individuals also will do. If I'm going to complete the pass in the next 10 seconds or so, I'll keep at it. If it's going to take longer, I'll nudge the accelerator a bit and get moving.
Ideally, I wouldn't pull out in front of a car moving quick enough to be that close before I'm finished passing the slower vehicle, but sometimes we misjudge these things.
As a system it works well until one of those chaps appears that will deliberately speed up to ensure a confrontation when you start indicating. You can make all the sensible calculations in the world but the number of chappies who will deliberately accelerate as you start to indicate your intentions is quite large.
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