RE: Koenigsegg One:1 at Suzuka: Time for Coffee?

RE: Koenigsegg One:1 at Suzuka: Time for Coffee?

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militantmandy

3,829 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Jonty355 said:
Link doesn't work?
Works for me!

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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militantmandy said:
Works for me!
Strangely once I'd quoted it, it worked for me too.

As mentioned before though, always rolling starts. How do you know that GT board haven't been encouraged to give the 'segg a chance?

If the Agera R was so quick then when couldn't the One:1 beat a standard Veyron with a normal person driving the Veyron and a Koenigsegg test driver in the One:1?

militantmandy

3,829 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Jonty355 said:
Strangely once I'd quoted it, it worked for me too.

As mentioned before though, always rolling starts. How do you know that GT board haven't been encouraged to give the 'segg a chance?

If the Agera R was so quick then when couldn't the One:1 beat a standard Veyron with a normal person driving the Veyron and a Koenigsegg test driver in the One:1?
Who knows? I'm not on a side, I just thought the video was interesting. I do think it's a bit strong to suggest foul play though. Weather, temperature, surface, state of the car, drivers blah blah blah. All makes a difference. As for rolling starts, agreed, they do seem a handful to get off the line. In the real world though, standing start is pretty irrelevant really.

I think they Koni is probably as fast as it's supposed to be, but it's significantly more difficult to extract said performance. Whether you see that as good or bad is entirely personal.

Krikkit

26,544 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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militantmandy said:
I think they Koni is probably as fast as it's supposed to be, but it's significantly more difficult to extract said performance. Whether you see that as good or bad is entirely personal.
I'd agree there... Launch control on the Veyron makes it look very easy (whether that's true is another matter of course) - foot planted and hang on!

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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militantmandy said:
I think they Koni is probably as fast as it's supposed to be, but it's significantly more difficult to extract said performance. Whether you see that as good or bad is entirely personal.
Anybody can put a shed load of power in a car, harnessing it is the important part.

How many people buy a car and tune it up? And then wrap it round a tree because they didn't sort out the handling or brakes?


Guvernator

13,167 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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gregf40 said:
As someone who has spent time at the factory and is considering ordering a 1:1...I can assure you they are actually very fast wink
Can I ask why you would buy one? Admittedly some of the detailing is top notch but the styling is a bit suspect from certain angles (looks like a melted blob IMO)and the handling always seems to not be as well resolved as other hypercars i.e. they always seem to suffer lots of wheelspin and be on the ragged edge when ever I see one driven in anger. I could be mistaken but they just don't always seem like the finished article as if they have not spent enough development time on it.

If I had the means I just don't think it's a car that would even enter into the equation so just curious as to the decision\thought process as to why you'd choose one of these over some of the more obvious alternatives?

militantmandy

3,829 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Jonty355 said:
Anybody can put a shed load of power in a car, harnessing it is the important part.

How many people buy a car and tune it up? And then wrap it round a tree because they didn't sort out the handling or brakes?
Are you saying it doesn't handle or stop? You really seem to have it in for this car!

The Agera seems to go pretty well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUfkyMCDYhU

JD

2,777 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Jonty355 said:
If the One:1 is really as fast as its made out to be, why couldn't it beat a Boggo standard Veyron at VMax? The Veyron is a 10 year old car now, and lets not forget the Supersport has an extra 200bhp over the standard car. But the One:1 couldn't even beat that with the Koenigsegg test driver behind the wheel and just a regular guy driving the standard Veyron?
Because one is feat of precision engineering magnificence, and the other is some bits cobbled together in a shed in Sweden.

The Veyron is an outrageously capable bit of kit, you only need to see the supposed "faster" cars that it still manages to beat down the straight at Vmax once the low drag mode is selected to see that.

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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The car in the video clip, what's it for? Is it a road car, some sort of racing series car or a halfway point trackday car?

zeDuffMan

4,057 posts

152 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Impasse said:
The car in the video clip, what's it for? Is it a road car, some sort of racing series car or a halfway point trackday car?
It's a road legal car, an extreme version of the Agera R. The name comes from the power to weight ratio: one hp per kilo. It's something like 1360hp. They've only made 5 customer cars iirc.

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Ah, righto. It's just a mental nutter edition. I can live with that. biggrin
Some aspects of it seem, erm, agricultural.

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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gregf40 said:
Gatsods said:
gregf40 said:
As someone who has spent time at the factory and is considering ordering a 1:1...I can assure you they are actually very fast wink
I had the understanding they were all sold out..?
You are correct - but it will be possible to order the face lifted Agera with all of the 1:1 goodies on - so essentially the same car.

Christian said to me...if I give him enough money he can build me a helicopter! hehe
I love that saying smile
Out of interest, if you were going to spend what must be a considerable amount on money on something truly crazy, would you not consider going the whole hog by buying a RHD Regera ?


redroadster

1,748 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Take it to the Ring and lets see how it compares to the big boys, got a feeling the kit car Ultima with its new 1000bhp spec engine will toast the hypercars even though it does not look as good as them.

ZX10R NIN

27,648 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Epic car Epic sound.

Terminator X

15,108 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Drove past one parked outside a garage in Sunningdale today, looked fookin mental!

TX.

gregf40

1,114 posts

117 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Guvernator said:
gregf40 said:
As someone who has spent time at the factory and is considering ordering a 1:1...I can assure you they are actually very fast wink
Can I ask why you would buy one? Admittedly some of the detailing is top notch but the styling is a bit suspect from certain angles (looks like a melted blob IMO)and the handling always seems to not be as well resolved as other hypercars i.e. they always seem to suffer lots of wheelspin and be on the ragged edge when ever I see one driven in anger. I could be mistaken but they just don't always seem like the finished article as if they have not spent enough development time on it.

If I had the means I just don't think it's a car that would even enter into the equation so just curious as to the decision\thought process as to why you'd choose one of these over some of the more obvious alternatives?
You need to drive one to understand just how incredible they are - they are faster than the current crop of hyper cars and feel as well put together IMO.

I know the looks are subjective - but I think it looks brutal in real life.

wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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jamespink said:
Awesome car dispatching a ridiculous lap time and making it look easy...
for the amount they cost you could have a 12 year old moto gp bike that can go round 10 secs quicker. you would need the talent of valentino rossi to accompany the bike though smile.

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Very refreshing that is it won't start off the one cleanly. It certainly looks the part and given the time is is certainly quick enough.

It is pretty amazing what Koenig have achieved over a relatively short time.

loveice

649 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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gregf40 said:
scubadude said:
they seem the most unwieldy and outlandish cars rather than actually very fast.
As someone who has spent time at the factory and is considering ordering a 1:1...I can assure you they are actually very fast wink
PH forgot to mention in its article that the 2:17.57 lap time is the new unofficial record for Suzuka. Considering they were not there to set record (only to test the car, the car wasn't specially set up for the track), and it did in its first lap, I would call it 'actually very fast'.

Obi Wan

2,085 posts

216 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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gregf40 said:
You need to drive one to understand just how incredible they are - they are faster than the current crop of hyper cars and feel as well put together IMO.

I know the looks are subjective - but I think it looks brutal in real life.
What's the handling and traction like? In all the magazines articles I've read they say it's fast in a straight line but no one has described what it's like in the corners.