A modern car that performs / handles as well as a Mitsubishi
Discussion
StottyEvo said:
In response to the OP, I'd look towards a Golf R or if you want that feeling where the car is moving around you constantly then I'd look towards the brand new Impreza.
Nope. Neither comes close. The Golf is inert and aloof, and the Scoob feels like it has an anvil nailed to the front bumper compared to the Evo. 
Ali_T said:
Nope. Neither comes close. The Golf is inert and aloof, and the Scoob feels like it has an anvil nailed to the front bumper compared to the Evo.
Depends which Imprezas you're comparing it with, the DCCD cars are very pointy. I've heard that Spec-C owners tend to find Evos a bit dull and overly computer-assisted. 
PorkRind said:
Ali_T said:
And anyone classifying the Golf R, A45 AMG and S3 in with the Evo hasn't driven both. The German cars are inert, understeering, poor approximations of the real thing.
That's what I'm finding with my audi, quite the let down 
Edited by PorkRind on Thursday 28th May 10:24
Completely different cars for a completely different purpose.GravelBen said:
Ali_T said:
Nope. Neither comes close. The Golf is inert and aloof, and the Scoob feels like it has an anvil nailed to the front bumper compared to the Evo.
Depends which Imprezas you're comparing it with, the DCCD cars are very pointy. I've heard that Spec-C owners tend to find Evos a bit dull and overly computer-assisted. 
Although if Evo's feel a little computer assisted they have the RS range. These are the lightweight models, no abs, no ayc, no power steering, no air-con etc...
RobM77 said:
Completely different cars for a completely different purpose.What, no zero fighter suggestions
Edited by PorkRind on Thursday 28th May 10:43
ikarl said:
Handling? Really?
If you want a lesson in handling, look at something like an Elise/vx220 or even an m3. If you want a car the grips and makes the most of that, evo/impreza/audi ttrs/golf R/merc a45 amg
If you want a lesson in handling, look at something like an Elise/vx220 or even an m3. If you want a car the grips and makes the most of that, evo/impreza/audi ttrs/golf R/merc a45 amg
Mitsubishi (as well as many all wheel drive offerings) generate absolutely mind bending lateral cornering forces, and use lots of clever gadgetry to allow entertaining slip angles, and provide a good amount of feedback to the driver.
I'm not sure that what they do could be classed as "handling", however. Certainly not in the sense that a Lotus might.
What's missing from the current German offerings is the adjustability and hooligan element of the evo family .... Nothing that I'm aware of, or experienced, does that like an evo
StottyEvo said:
Spec C's are in a different category to me when discussing Impreza's
Although if Evo's feel a little computer assisted they have the RS range. These are the lightweight models, no abs, no ayc, no power steering, no air-con etc...
I'd agree with that I've had a few Spec C and Evo RS/9GT models and they are very similar to drive (terrific) and much better than the regular Evo's/Sti models. Sadly there is nothing like these made any more.Although if Evo's feel a little computer assisted they have the RS range. These are the lightweight models, no abs, no ayc, no power steering, no air-con etc...
Modern versions of 4wd fast saloons like the Golf R are great but these cars have moved on to a different segment, refined all rounders, which means heavy and numb compared to a good Evo or Impreza. We need a new Spec C / Evo Gt/Rs but would anyone buy one?
PorkRind said:
RobM77 said:
Completely different cars for a completely different purpose.What, no zero fighter suggestions
Edited by PorkRind on Thursday 28th May 10:43
As it happens, neither car is to my taste, but nevertheless I can see a world of difference between them. The Evo is like a 4WD Integra R, whereas the Audi is like a 4WD, well, Audi!
GravelBen said:
Depends which Imprezas you're comparing it with, the DCCD cars are very pointy. I've heard that Spec-C owners tend to find Evos a bit dull and overly computer-assisted.
I had a 330S with Prodrive suspension upgrade before the Evo X and, no matter how much I fiddled with the DCCD, it was still too understeer orientated in extremis. They can't hide the engine and half the gearbox being entirely in front of the front axle. Earlier Evos were even better. The X was just far, far too heavy. With SST, it's over 1600kg.Ali_T said:
I had a 330S with Prodrive suspension upgrade before the Evo X and, no matter how much I fiddled with the DCCD, it was still too understeer orientated in extremis. They can't hide the engine and half the gearbox being entirely in front of the front axle. Earlier Evos were even better. The X was just far, far too heavy. With SST, it's over 1600kg.
Yeah , im quite partial to the ix's theyre like a modern take on the vi in terms of aggression / modern looks..I couldnt possibly comment having never driven an Evo. I'd say my wheelie bin hands quite well and goes around corners like its on rails, which is about as relevant to this as probably most of the posts on here from people who have never driven the car's they're saying are or aren't as good as an Evo 
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