Cars that were too fast at the time

[TA14]

ChemicalChaos said:

FiF said:

The problem it has is a VERY low polar moment of inertia. So when it starts to go, it's gone, at least for mere mortals. So unless your name is Sandro Munari you just don't go there, and to be honest even such as he treated it with respect.

No doubt today it could be tamed by stability control and masses of electronics. Which one supposes could be an interesting technical exercise, but not particularly rewarding.I think that removal of the risk of being bitten on the arse without warning were removed would anyone put up with the discomfort of using a Stratos? I know the noise and performance is fabulous but a big part of it all is the risk element.

Which sort of opens up another question as I still feel the definition is one where the chassis is not capable of handling the performance especially in hands of mere mortals.

With the power race that we see even in quite modest everyday vehicles, would removal of driver aids make many modern seemingly innocuous vehicles qualify for this thread?

to be fair, the Stratos was, as you've said, not so much a case of the chassis not handling the power, more of the wheelbase being too short for anything other than flicking around the Monte-Carlo rally....

Which is what it was designed for. FiF's opening statement is nonsense anyway - low polar moment of inertia means it's a easier to catch if it starts to go.

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bigvanfan said:

I have a road test of the Carlton against various other super saloons, the Carlton made 169 mph the e39 v8 b10 did about 0.7 mph faster, there's no way an e34 bi turbo would do 12mph more

The B10 BT is a faster car than the B10 V8, noticeably so, at all speeds...

[FiF]

TA14 said:

Which is what it was designed for. FiF's opening statement is nonsense anyway - low polar moment of inertia means it's a easier to catch if it starts to go.

But when it starts to go it very rapidly increases the rate of rotation into a full spin which is the point. It may also be possible to catch it BUT reaction speed has to be fast and accuracy of steering input has to be spot on. Which was the point and isn't nonsense.