Cars that were too fast at the time

Cars that were too fast at the time

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mightymouse

1,438 posts

228 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Fiat 128 Special T
Had one of these, looked like a brick, aerodynamic as one but it went like the proverbial ...........

andymc

7,348 posts

207 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Pat H said:
1989 VX Astra GTE 16v.

Stonking engine.

Not so stonking chassis.

Fast, but horrible to drive.

And horrible to look at.

And horrible to sit in.

And that digital speedo was horrible too.
true, had one, went quickly, mainly on the rear arches

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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F40 springs to mind?

EnthusiastOwned

728 posts

117 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Polo G40

Terrible suspension, terrible chassis, terrible brakes. But at the time, ridiculous.

Dakkon

7,826 posts

253 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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McLaren F1?

ITP

2,002 posts

197 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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The E21 323i was a bit lairy

FiF

44,050 posts

251 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Personally I would define this as vehicles where the performance exceeds the stability of e.g. the chassis such that either the vehicle is potentially dangerous in the wrong hands e.g. Lamborghini Miura apparently where the aerodynamics are reputedly a bit dodgy or the original Stratos which requires exceptional ability to drive it anywhere close to the edge. The latter is the only one of those two I've experienced and believe me I don't/didn't have the ability or cojones to really give it welly.

s m

23,219 posts

203 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Pat H said:
1989 VX Astra GTE 16v.

Stonking engine.

Not so stonking chassis.

Fast, but horrible to drive.

And horrible to look at.

And horrible to sit in.

And that digital speedo was horrible too.
Not my actual experiences.....nor those of many mags at the time

They did rust though!

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Jonty355 said:
RS200. Notorious for being too fast and killing people on rallies and the public road.
Delta S4 doesn't have a great record either.

But someone else has nominated all Group B cars anyway.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Pat H said:
1989 VX Astra GTE 16v.

Stonking engine.

Not so stonking chassis.

Fast, but horrible to drive.

And horrible to look at.

And horrible to sit in.

And that digital speedo was horrible too.
It was a great looking car for it's time, and still looks pretty good these days I reckon. They had huge boots, nice Recaros and a decent driving position though let down by an amazingly shoddy cardboard dash and the typical hard scratchy plastics of the day. No worse than the equivalent Ford and most French hatchbacks of the time though, and it would walk away from most of them (in a straight line...)

I agree about the nasty digital dash, though apparently you could order the car with conventional analog gauges.

charlie84rum

90 posts

133 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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I sure Im correct in thinking that the police had been sold a load of Omega's just before the Lotus Carlton came out rendering them somewhat impotent.

The civic type R was the first "quick" car I ever drove and I hate to think of a 17 year old me getting the keys to one.

jcelee

1,039 posts

244 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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The 1980s hot hatch boom really brought quite a lot of performance to the masses (and many inexperienced drivers) coupled with pretty dodgy narrow tyres and low weight, the lift-off oversteer in many instances was quite shocking. How I didn't crash my 1989 CRX the first time the back stepped out I still do not know!

Kenny6868

335 posts

145 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Dakkon said:
McLaren F1?
The Audi RS2 could beat it to 30mph when it came out in the early 90s
And it looked like a pimped up Audi 80 estate!

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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jeremyc said:
Caterhams were banned from racing in anything other than single make series in the 60s, 70s and again the 80s for being too fast.

nunpuncher

3,378 posts

125 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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charlie84rum said:
I sure Im correct in thinking that the police had been sold a load of Omega's just before the Lotus Carlton came out rendering them somewhat impotent.

The civic type R was the first "quick" car I ever drove and I hate to think of a 17 year old me getting the keys to one.
The Omega came out a long time after the Carlton. In fact, I think it replaced the Carlton.

Gun

13,431 posts

218 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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TVR Speed 12? Didn't Peter Wheeler say it was too fast/powerful for the road.

LasseV

1,754 posts

133 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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jeremyc said:
Wow! What a machine....

And for the topic: Golf R

Krupp Stahl

212 posts

128 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Astra Max van from the 1990's. They were absolute balls of fire.

The Don of Croy

5,993 posts

159 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Sunbeam Tiger.

Almost any mid-engine car until tyre technology improved (admittedly in the hands of we mere mortals).

I was told by a Lotus employee many of the fwd Elan turbo press cars suffered front end damage from catching the driver unawares when accelerating to overtake - they rear-ended the car in front when the boost came in too early.

The diesel RAV4 the MiL drive seems too fast when she is giving me a lift...


DeuxCentCinq

14,180 posts

182 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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jeremyc said:
In 2002, having won it's class (and come 11th overall) in the Nurburgring 24 Hours, the Caterham R400 was banned from the next year's race.

Simon Nearn at the time said:
I guess it’s embarrassing for us to roll up with a car that costs a fraction of the price of the rest of the field, can be driven to and from the track and run for 24 hours without a glitch.
On what pretence were they banned?