Cars that were too fast at the time
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ChilliWhizz said:
Some of these posts smack of 'drivers that were lacking in driving skills at the time' rather than cars that were too fast
GTE 16v would lift off oversteer in extremis just like many hot hatches of that time... 205 GTI included
Nothing unsafe about it
The brakes were excellent - definitely a drivers' car though
Are we counting motorsport?
If so then surely the R32 GT-R? Unbeatable for multiple seasons of JTCC (winning 29/29 races) as well as the dominance at Bathurst earning it the Godzilla nickname.
I always remember the road-going R32/33/34 being routed as 'Porsche killers' at the time; whether it was true or not I'm not sure.
If so then surely the R32 GT-R? Unbeatable for multiple seasons of JTCC (winning 29/29 races) as well as the dominance at Bathurst earning it the Godzilla nickname.
I always remember the road-going R32/33/34 being routed as 'Porsche killers' at the time; whether it was true or not I'm not sure.
NotNormal said:
Leins said:
Yes, but the point being the B10 came before it, yet it was the LC that grabbed all the attention
The B10 in its day was not seen as a "production" car but more of a low volume tuner mod to the existing M5. Same can be said gor the AMG Hammer.Dakkon said:
McLaren F1?
No but only because it was properly developed. Now if you have said Jaguar XJ220 then yes, even the dials couldn't keep up with the speed it could accelerate.I would imagine lots of American muscle cars of the 60's fit into this category, massive engines and power but handling and brakes were a very secondary consideration! Damn good fun I imagine though.
Leins said:
NotNormal said:
Leins said:
Yes, but the point being the B10 came before it, yet it was the LC that grabbed all the attention
The B10 in its day was not seen as a "production" car but more of a low volume tuner mod to the existing M5. Same can be said gor the AMG Hammer.Mr_Yogi said:
Leins said:
NotNormal said:
Leins said:
Yes, but the point being the B10 came before it, yet it was the LC that grabbed all the attention
The B10 in its day was not seen as a "production" car but more of a low volume tuner mod to the existing M5. Same can be said gor the AMG Hammer.And as the top speed was the main media point when the LC was launched, I just think it's interesting to note that the Alpina, fulfilling a very similar role, possessed a higher one a year earlier
s m said:
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They did rust though!
Yeah.Pat H said:
1989 VX Astra GTE 16v.
Stonking engine.
Not so stonking chassis.
Fast, but horrible to drive.
And horrible to look at.
And horrible to sit in.
And that digital speedo was horrible too.
Not my actual experiences.....nor those of many mags at the timeStonking engine.
Not so stonking chassis.
Fast, but horrible to drive.
And horrible to look at.
And horrible to sit in.
And that digital speedo was horrible too.
They did rust though!
Since I was around 18 (so back in the late 80's) I have been lucky enough to have gorged myself silly on a vast array of superbikes, both on the road and track. And once you've experienced all that big bikes have to offer, most cars seem extremely dull and pedestrian in comparison. Even my last 911.
However a few years ago, I was building a Westfield, and I needed to source a donor Vauxhall Red Top engine. A mate who is a car dealer called me one day and offered me a 1990 MOT failure Astra GTE for a good price. It hadn't failed on anything terrifying, but the owner decided that the investment wasn't worth it.
I went and bought it, and drove it home.
Despite the fact that it was a 15 year old car with a fair whack of mileage on the clock, it drove well and everything still worked - including the digital dash.
I have to say, that even though it was old and old tech - it was an absolute hoot to drive. I had also owned a Pug 205 GTi of a similar vintage back in the day, but this Astra was in a different league I reckon? For new owners in 1990 it must have been an absolute revolution!
I did even consider keeping it and pouring some love and money into it to get it up together and back on the road. It was really good.
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