Travellers in town car park - why aren't they fined?
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hora said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Following the Dale Farm incident, it was found that a most of the travellers there also had fixed properties elsewhere, and in the case of the `traveller' who instigated the illegal occupation of the site, substantial properties.
They were also offered houses by the local authority so that their children could continue to attend local schools, but refused them, saying they were travellers and it was `not their way of life' (which `appears' to be taking as much as they can get from those around them, and paying nothing back for it) so no, they don`t have to live in caravans, they just choose to live in caravans.
If non travellers go on land and build illegal dwellings, without planning permission etc, in green belt areas they are obliged to demolish them, or they are demolished at the owners expense.
They just want to establish fixed dwellings, without going through the procedures and paying the going rate / fees etc that the rest of us have to, to take advantage of rising prices for fixed properties. Another example of them flouting the law to make a profit out of those around them.
There was a programme not so long ago where a few interviewed mentioned that they had homes in Southern Ireland but liked to travel. Like a semi-permanent road trip? They were also offered houses by the local authority so that their children could continue to attend local schools, but refused them, saying they were travellers and it was `not their way of life' (which `appears' to be taking as much as they can get from those around them, and paying nothing back for it) so no, they don`t have to live in caravans, they just choose to live in caravans.
If non travellers go on land and build illegal dwellings, without planning permission etc, in green belt areas they are obliged to demolish them, or they are demolished at the owners expense.
They just want to establish fixed dwellings, without going through the procedures and paying the going rate / fees etc that the rest of us have to, to take advantage of rising prices for fixed properties. Another example of them flouting the law to make a profit out of those around them.
Some others mentioned they had close relatives who lived in houses (Manchester featured abit) where mail and car insurance was registered.
TBh there will be good travellers, its just the bad ones create disproportion noise that is easy to focus on.
The Appleby fair- we went a few days after to stay- not one bit of rubbish/sign of trouble was there.
you are right like in any walk of life there are good and bad, its just that no one seems to have seen, or heard any evidence of good travellers. E.g ones who move onto a rubbish strewn site, and leave it all clean and tidy when they go, rather than the other way around.
A few years ago I read the book 'king of the gypsies' it was all about the bare knuckle king Bartley Gorman (RIP)
Apart from his scrapes he talked a lot about the traditional travellers life - back in the day they had far more morals, standards and respect than todays lot.
The traditional travelling life sounded appealing in the book and its a shame the new breed are seemingly just travelling chavs.
Apart from his scrapes he talked a lot about the traditional travellers life - back in the day they had far more morals, standards and respect than todays lot.
The traditional travelling life sounded appealing in the book and its a shame the new breed are seemingly just travelling chavs.
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