RE: Ferrari Dino to return?

RE: Ferrari Dino to return?

Friday 5th June 2015

Ferrari Dino to return?

Autocar reckons there could be a smaller V6 Ferrari on the way - here are the details



Understandably there's some considerable excitement at the new Ferrari 488 GTB. It replaces one of the greatest mid-engined Ferraris of all time, it's crammed with the latest tech and looks spectacular too.

Can we have smaller wheels please?
Can we have smaller wheels please?
But the junior Ferrari now has 670hp. Which is quite a lot. At the turn of the millennium that car was a 360M with 400hp. So the news that Ferrari may resurrect the Dino badge for a c. 500hp V6 model, a lightweight sports car at similar money to a California T, is rather exciting.

This is not an official confirmation, rather Autocar speculation based on a chat with new Ferrari chairman Sergio Marchionne. Apparently it is "not a question of it but when" the nameplate would return. Furthermore, it will not be introduced as a more affordable sub-brand like the original Dino; "it would be a wrong association to make Dino just a cheaper Ferrari" said Marchionne.

With a twin-turbo V6 already produced by Ferrari for Maserati, plus the need to reduce CO2, a version of that engine would seem the most likely powerplant for a Dino. If Ferrari sticks to its current goal of producing 7,000 cars, a V6 model would bring the fleet average down by taking a few sales.

While priced at a similar level to the California, any production Dino is likely to be a far less of a GT and more in keeping with the Ferrari sports car spirit. There's even a McLaren alternative to battle, plus the new Audi R8 and perhaps even the GT3 RS.

Anyway, these remain educated guesses for now. Once there's anything more we'll let you know. Of course any predictions (or wishes) for a junior Ferrari are gladly welcomed...

[Sources: Autocar]

 

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babbedyboobedy

Original Poster:

16 posts

107 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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God almighty I wish autocar would cease their infuriating habit of employing 11 year olds to conjure up those images...

They're never even close thematically, the quality is abhorrent, and they serve no purpose other than to convince (stupid) people that the upcoming car in question will be a horribly proportioned, over wheeled, blobby mess.

The one they posted about TVR's revival this week was particularly bad, they're potentially damaging for the brand.

Leave it to the professionals please, rather than just insulting them with amateur hashes on photoshop.

chickensoup

469 posts

256 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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If the FIAT empire were to do a mid engined V6, would rather it was a Stratos

Fetchez la vache

5,574 posts

215 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Makes sense. Surprised they haven'y done it already tbh...

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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The original 206 Dino was one of the best looking cars ever made, IMO.

The new one... wont be. I'm not convinced Ferrari are capable of designing a decent looking car these days. I'm sure it'll be "good" but I'm equally sure that I wont want one.

robinessex

11,068 posts

182 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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It will look ok if a guy sketches it on the back of a paper napkin in his lunch break !!!!!!!! It'll get screwed up if they let some CAD jockeys loose on it.

MikeGalos

261 posts

285 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Seriously almost EVERY Ferrari produced is a Dino by Enzo Ferrari's rules. He's the one who said a road-going Ferrari has 12 cylinders and everything else is a Dino.

He also set up the rules that a road-going Ferrari is named after the displacement of 1 cylinder and a Dino the overall displacement and the number of cylinders.

That said, we can just rationalize the current lineup and we're done:

F12 Berlinetta becomes Ferrari 522 GTB
FF becomes Ferrari 522 FF
LeFerrari becomes Ferrari 522 GTH

488 GTB becomes Dino 398 GTB
Califorina T becomes Dino 398 GTS
458 Spider becomes Dino 458 GTS
458 Speciale becomes Dino 458 GTBs
458 Speciale A becomes Dino 458 GTBsa

Now we can all go home and stop looking at bad speculative "renderings".


Edited by MikeGalos on Friday 5th June 16:16

simonrockman

6,861 posts

256 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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4C chassis?

The Bandit

788 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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kambites said:
The new one... wont be. I'm not convinced Ferrari are capable of designing a decent looking car these days. I'm sure it'll be "good" but I'm equally sure that I wont want one.
This. Absolutely.

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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simonrockman said:
4C chassis?
I suspect it'll be the same manufacturing technique and probably the same production line even if it's not an identical tub.

robinessex

11,068 posts

182 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Why not this :-




bubney72

1,104 posts

154 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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ah the Dino. My first time in a machine from Maranello back in 1977, and it's been love ever since.

LotusOmega375D

7,647 posts

154 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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500bhp in an entry-level Dino. Crazy isn't it? The legendary F40 had only 478bhp and that that was no slouch.

The first Ferrari I ever drove was a 206GT Dino. I was about 17 at the time and drove it about 10 yards out from its garage to be washed. That was the original 180bhp LHD only SWB version with alloy body and engine block. My abiding memory of the owner taking me out for a spin was of a strident knocking noise coming from each corner, which was probably the sound of 20 year-old empty shock absorbers.

domV8

1,375 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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robinessex said:
Why not this :-



Now that looks awesome.

However, the cockpit-width:car-width ratio looks like it would either make the car far too wide for many of our roads, or the cockpit too narrow for more than 1 person...

That said - fabulous design IMO.

SirSquidalot

4,042 posts

166 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Yawn the most no story, story ever!

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Must admit, rather than the 500BHP/£140k group, Id rather see a 400BHP/£80k motor being produced.

I understand why Ferrari would prefer their strategy to mine however, similar production costs, £40 - 60k more dosh. No brainer really frown

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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The Crack Fox said:
I don't get why they don't just make a 'Boxster model' like Porsche make to undercut the now very expensive 911.
They might, but Alfa go first with the 6C. Rumours have it to be shown in September at Frankfurt.

matsoc

853 posts

133 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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The Crack Fox said:
I don't get why they don't just make a 'Boxster model' like Porsche make to undercut the now very expensive 911. Make a high-volume, lower-powered car (300BHP), for the middle classes. No-one is buying Alfas. Make a (say) £50k Ferrari, use a NA V6 in something MX-5 sized, make it pretty instead of powerful, classy instead of brutish, the middle-classes of Europe would love it, the Arabs can buy their many wives one (colour coded to match their Enzo). They could get Fiat to build it on the cheap, charge €€€ for poncy options, the market would lap it up. Purists might talk about cheapening the brand but it has done Porsche no harm at all and after the ghastly Ferrari world nonsense in Spain and Dubai (or wherever) it seems Ferrari will chase money regardless of what the old brigade think.

Si?

Edited by The Crack Fox on Monday 8th June 22:55
No, proprio no!

awilkinson92

1 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Isn't this essentially just going to be a car that sits between Alfa's 4c and 8c? Something of an Alfa "6c" but sporting Ferrari badges and a Dino one to justify a premium for the Ferrari brand but without damaging the Alfa sports cars?

Willwors

76 posts

129 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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The 488 follows "non-Dino" naming rules. Smaller capacity 3.9l V8; 488cc per cylinder.

California T would be a similar story.

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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So basically an Alfa 4C with a nicer engine, prancing horse, and a hefty price increase?