RE: Shelby Mustang Super Snake announced

[mp3manager]

A purple super snake??

[redroadster]

One of the few new cars priced at a very reasonable amount and i will be having a look before ordering quite happy to wait until next year so won,t be paying any premiums to get an early one and sure they will offer updates on next years model to make it even better well done ford.

[peter450]

Really like these and very tempted to buy one in a few years either new or second hand depending on what the final run out models are like

[nickphuket]

unpc said:

This is not helping me at all. Mine's on order (same colour) but won't be here till the end of the year.

I'll have to console myself with a mere 420bhp though.

Ones heart bleedeth!!!! Lucky man

[Hol]

flatso said:

Nothin against all the schicky-micky programmable electronic gizmoes, but WHY can't a classic manual transmission be offered even as an option?
Jag coupe, great V8, looks porn, but no auto.
M3,M5,M6 all auto
AMG models...auto

Surely the accountants of all these companies have done their research and thier sales figures speaks for them. I for one will not even consider a sports car without a manual transmission. I'm buying the damned thing as a toy, to take out for special drives. The accountants forgot that one buys a sports car to DRIVE it, not to pretend you are sitting in front of the playstation flicking throgh gears.
I would have bought a european, but they are literally forcing my hand to hand my dough to the yanks.

Lower emissions and car tax to be had from an ECU controlled auto box, over an identical manual.

So, to meet their emissions targets, they dropped the manual boxes from the bigger engined cars.
That's certainly the case from personal experience with Audi.

[RadQuinn]

flatso said:

Nothin against all the schicky-micky programmable electronic gizmoes, but WHY can't a classic manual transmission be offered even as an option?
Jag coupe, great V8, looks porn, but no auto.
M3,M5,M6 all auto
AMG models...auto

Surely the accountants of all these companies have done their research and thier sales figures speaks for them. I for one will not even consider a sports car without a manual transmission. I'm buying the damned thing as a toy, to take out for special drives. The accountants forgot that one buys a sports car to DRIVE it, not to pretend you are sitting in front of the playstation flicking throgh gears.
I would have bought a european, but they are literally forcing my hand to hand my dough to the yanks.

You're a little off on your info there bud; Almost all BMW M models offer a manual transmission at no extra charge. All except the M4 Convertible and SAVs I believe. This Mustang, like all other Mustangs, will offer great power and good looks but will have nothing near the quality of a M Division car or anything that comes out of AMG.

[British Beef]

RadQuinn said:

flatso said:

Nothin against all the schicky-micky programmable electronic gizmoes, but WHY can't a classic manual transmission be offered even as an option?
Jag coupe, great V8, looks porn, but no auto.
M3,M5,M6 all auto
AMG models...auto

Surely the accountants of all these companies have done their research and thier sales figures speaks for them. I for one will not even consider a sports car without a manual transmission. I'm buying the damned thing as a toy, to take out for special drives. The accountants forgot that one buys a sports car to DRIVE it, not to pretend you are sitting in front of the playstation flicking throgh gears.
I would have bought a european, but they are literally forcing my hand to hand my dough to the yanks.

You're a little off on your info there bud; Almost all BMW M models offer a manual transmission at no extra charge. All except the M4 Convertible and SAVs I believe. This Mustang, like all other Mustangs, will offer great power and good looks but will have nothing near the quality of a M Division car or anything that comes out of AMG.

As far as BMW's offerings in the UK are concerned you are wrong.

BMW has proceeded in reducing the offering of manual transmission on its M models over the last 4 generations of cars.
Up until E39 M5, the M5 could only be had with manual, the next Gen M5 (the V10) and the M6 were only offered with the SMG (automated manual) - no clutch pedal so not a manual. (although in US this was available with a manual box).
The M3 has always been and continues to be offered with manual. What percentage are now spec'd with a manual I would be curious.

So X5M, X6M, M6, M6 gran coupe and M5 are all only available now with "auto" boxes (call it whatever you want) - the car changes gear for you.
Only the M3 / M4 continues to be offered with a proper manual box.

For me it is sad to see no M models now offered with a NA engine and only one with a manual box!

[C7 JFW]

Ford should definitely sell these in the UK and be proud of it.

[unsprung]

It is waiting to be written: the definitive article on the size and proclivities of the UK car market -- with selected comparisons to Continental markets, the US and China.

This article would pay homage to one of the world's most particular and creative car cultures. And it would shed light on the maths that inform motoring on this island nation.

We would better understand the market forces that place limits on UK availability of performance cars with manual transmissions. Or all-wheel-drive. Or LS V8s. Or entire brands (Acura, Infiniti). Or niche tuner vehicles like this Shelby Super Snake.

At the moment, Ford has allotted one Mustang for every 32,000 people in the total UK population. For model year 2015, the equivalent US figure is projected to be one Mustang for every 3220 people in the total population. The reasons for this are cultural, mathematical and probably very interesting.

[PanzerCommander]

RadQuinn said:

Still stealing....er...borrowing styling tips from Aston Martin, eh? Cool.

Sadly yes. The Mustang now has the same corporate face as the rest of the Ford line-up (seems all manufacturers have gone this way). I had to look twice at a Mondeo the other day, it is a shame because with a couple of notable exceptions (the Fox Body for example) the Mustang has never needed that corporate face to succeed, it has always been what it is and done well by it.