Do you need anything more than a 320d?
Discussion
Mr2Mike said:
wormus said:
I think the people who most criticise 4x4s and their owners are the ones who've never owned one. When you get to a stage on your life where you are a middle aged Dad with failing eye site, a 4x4 is just the ticket.
Seems to me that if you eyesight is failing, then getting a taxi or relative to drive you would be a much safer proposition for everyone.tomjol said:
Don't be ridiculous - swapping your average-sized car for a whopping land barge is the obvious solution!
Nothing wrong with average-sized cars, they're perfectly adequate for average people. Barges and proper 4x4s on the other hand are a nicer place to be for above-average people. 
tomjol said:
Or the morbidly obese
My powerfully built frame hides the weight well and I have private medical care. Anyway, I'd rather dine on cake and fine wine than eat pot noodles on the Ikea sofa of my rented 1 bed new build so I can save enough cash to put petrol in my rented Golf which I cannot wash because I don't own an outside tap.wormus said:
tomjol said:
Or the morbidly obese
My powerfully built frame hides the weight well and I have private medical care. Anyway, I'd rather dine on cake and fine wine than eat pot noodles on the Ikea sofa of my rented 1 bed new build so I can save enough cash to put petrol in my rented Golf which I cannot wash because I don't own an outside tap.
Benzo26 said:
Just saw this thread is still going. I checked out about 30 pages ago, so did we ever get a definitive answer to the question?
Yes...if you are Rob you don't need anything more than a 320d but if you are Ares you need a mapped 640d because it is quicker than most 911`s allegedly. One thing we do know from how many you see out on the road is that it seems you actually don't need anything more than a 320d...so CH was correct in the first place.
ORD said:
A woman in a diesel Insignia stuck to my tail reasonably well through some twisty roads recently, so maybe you don't even need a RWD BMW. She seemed pleased as punch with herself, too.
I have said a few times in this thread that a mondeo does exactly the same job as a 3 series anyway so I agree you don't need a RWD BMW far from it. cerb4.5lee said:
Yes...if you are Rob you don't need anything more than a 320d but if you are Ares you need a mapped 640d because it is quicker than most 911`s allegedly.
One thing we do know from how many you see out on the road is that it seems you actually don't need anything more than a 320d...so CH was correct in the first place.
One thing we do know from how many you see out on the road is that it seems you actually don't need anything more than a 320d...so CH was correct in the first place.
cerb4.5lee said:
I have said a few times in this thread that a mondeo does exactly the same job as a 3 series anyway so I agree you don't need a RWD BMW far from it.
Not for me, it doesn't. But I am not in the 99% of drivers that wouldn't know the driven wheels from a test drive. I don't like FWD in big cars.Let's put it this way... I take it the people on here are pretty into cars....
If you DIDN'T need anything more than a 320d, that would mean that if you fancied a spirited Sunday morning enthusiastic drive, you would open your front door and be greeted by the 320d. How many people would go for a Sunday drive in that? I can't see much enthusiasm really....
Yes you would need a 2nd car, as Rob M77 has!
If you DIDN'T need anything more than a 320d, that would mean that if you fancied a spirited Sunday morning enthusiastic drive, you would open your front door and be greeted by the 320d. How many people would go for a Sunday drive in that? I can't see much enthusiasm really....
Yes you would need a 2nd car, as Rob M77 has!
ORD said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I have said a few times in this thread that a mondeo does exactly the same job as a 3 series anyway so I agree you don't need a RWD BMW far from it.
Not for me, it doesn't. But I am not in the 99% of drivers that wouldn't know the driven wheels from a test drive. I don't like FWD in big cars.You would never just go out for a blast for the fun of it in a family car or sports saloon anyway.
cerb4.5lee said:
Truth be told I don't like FWD in any car to be fair but as I have said before a family car is used mostly for getting from A to B or commuting so whether it has FWD or RWD doesn't really make much difference in the scheme of things.
You would never just go out for a blast for the fun of it in a family car or sports saloon anyway.
"mostly" is the key word in your first sentence, though. Why not have a decent car for that 10% of driving when it matters to have a good chassis, nice engine, etc? You would never just go out for a blast for the fun of it in a family car or sports saloon anyway.
I would understand why car enthusiasts buy dull cars if they were massively cheaper, but they aren't. And people don't rely on them being cheaper: they insist on saying that they really don't see that a 3er is better than a Mondeo, which makes me doubt that they know what they are on about when they wax lyrical about some sports car. If you cant appreciate and enjoy what makes a 320d better than a Mondeo, Insignia or whatever, you probably cant tell a 911 from an Elise.
ORD said:
"mostly" is the key word in your first sentence, though. Why not have a decent car for that 10% of driving when it matters to have a good chassis, nice engine, etc?
I would understand why car enthusiasts buy dull cars if they were massively cheaper, but they aren't. And people don't rely on them being cheaper: they insist on saying that they really don't see that a 3er is better than a Mondeo, which makes me doubt that they know what they are on about when they wax lyrical about some sports car. If you cant appreciate and enjoy what makes a 320d better than a Mondeo, Insignia or whatever, you probably cant tell a 911 from an Elise.
Er.... Everyone is different, but for me the diesel bit is a compromise too far and there are any number of petrol fwd cars I'd rather have.I would understand why car enthusiasts buy dull cars if they were massively cheaper, but they aren't. And people don't rely on them being cheaper: they insist on saying that they really don't see that a 3er is better than a Mondeo, which makes me doubt that they know what they are on about when they wax lyrical about some sports car. If you cant appreciate and enjoy what makes a 320d better than a Mondeo, Insignia or whatever, you probably cant tell a 911 from an Elise.
Bill said:
ORD said:
"mostly" is the key word in your first sentence, though. Why not have a decent car for that 10% of driving when it matters to have a good chassis, nice engine, etc?
I would understand why car enthusiasts buy dull cars if they were massively cheaper, but they aren't. And people don't rely on them being cheaper: they insist on saying that they really don't see that a 3er is better than a Mondeo, which makes me doubt that they know what they are on about when they wax lyrical about some sports car. If you cant appreciate and enjoy what makes a 320d better than a Mondeo, Insignia or whatever, you probably cant tell a 911 from an Elise.
Er.... Everyone is different, but for me the diesel bit is a compromise too far and there are any number of petrol fwd cars I'd rather have.I would understand why car enthusiasts buy dull cars if they were massively cheaper, but they aren't. And people don't rely on them being cheaper: they insist on saying that they really don't see that a 3er is better than a Mondeo, which makes me doubt that they know what they are on about when they wax lyrical about some sports car. If you cant appreciate and enjoy what makes a 320d better than a Mondeo, Insignia or whatever, you probably cant tell a 911 from an Elise.
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