RE: Shed Of The Week: Seat Leon Cupra

RE: Shed Of The Week: Seat Leon Cupra

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MadDog1962

890 posts

163 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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You could use it as a hack for a couple of months, then use it for a track car (maybe).

The short MoT is going to put a lot of people off. Not to mention the warning lights.

Looks like a lot of car for £800 really.

Brompty

153 posts

145 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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It might be worth pointing out that it, 'has been serviced with stamped book up to 73k then after mostly at my brothers work by professional mechanics'. It seems the warning lights, leaks and door problems are beyond them so why is this an easy fix for someone else?

Avoid.

confused_buyer

6,624 posts

182 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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It is £400 below book trade and about £1200 under retail so to be fair to the seller the asking price is hardly unreasonable.

That'll be bought by a trader, fixed and be up for £1995 within the week.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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I'd be drilling 4 holes in the floorpan at this money. Water gets in. Water gets out.

Greatest car off the VW Mk4 Golf floorpan by some margin. Dodgy doors - doesn't Shed like to tinker?


graham22

3,295 posts

206 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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If the doors are anything like an A4 I had, it seems to be the locking mechanism in the catch itself fails which stops the external handles working.

Easy to fix as the doors will still open from inside - unless the child locks have been turned on; which can only be turned off with the doors open - err using the outside handles which don't work....

Always fancied one as I had a Mk3 Ibiza Cupra but could never understand why the Leon didn't come with leather/part leather like the Ibiza.

gforceg

3,524 posts

180 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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confused_buyer said:
It is £400 below book trade and about £1200 under retail so to be fair to the seller the asking price is hardly unreasonable.

That'll be bought by a trader, bodged and be up for £1995 within the week.
Bodged that for you.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

218 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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graham22 said:
Always fancied one as I had a Mk3 Ibiza Cupra but could never understand why the Leon didn't come with leather/part leather like the Ibiza.
They did, electric leather seats were an option.

This is a cracking buy, it is the cost of a cambelt service, some easy fixes and you have a reasonably quick decent looking car, easy disposable motoring.


Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Friday 26th June 11:46

Rumblestripe

2,956 posts

163 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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That advert is setting off all sorts of alarm bells but principally the bits about being "looked after by mechanics" but that those mechanics couldn't be bothered to resolve these simple niggles...

Righto!

Hub

6,440 posts

199 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Rumblestripe said:
That advert is setting off all sorts of alarm bells but principally the bits about being "looked after by mechanics" but that those mechanics couldn't be bothered to resolve these simple niggles...

Righto!
Indeed. "The usual engine management lights on the dash" (!) Er, nice and honest but passing it off as trivial and the norm is quite funny.

I know someone who had severe leak issues with a Leon, and threw in the towel (pun intended). It wasn't just the doors, but somewhere else with all carpets soaked.

I do like these though, but the Cupra 'R' styling, or even the very simple pre facelift cars look better. I think it is the cheap looking wheels and front bumper.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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I had a Leon 130 followed by a Toledo 150 'sport' diesel (basically saloon version of the leon cupra), both were nice to drive but suffered annoying issues, especially the Toledo. EML always seemed to be on for one reason or another. Both had leaky door seals and it drove me nuts as the car was always damp and as a result the glass was always 'fogged up' ; had to carry a towel in the car to wipe down the windows!

It is surprising how such a trivial problem can be difficult to track down and fix properly. It is also incredibly annoying to the point where it removes all enjoyment from the car. I actually sold the last one because I couldn't solve the damp issue, so while this is cheap the leaky door seals would put me off.

Warning light on the dash could be anything from a coolant temperature sensor to a massive issue.

Not sure it is worth the hassle but if you are handy with the spanners and don't mind a bit of TLC then £800 could be a bargain..... ?


Qubit

142 posts

124 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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The only thing id be worried about here is the EML, could be on for all sorts of reasons. The others aren't difficult or expensive to fix, mostly just the time.

For everyone asking why the door leaks haven't been fixed by the mechanic in question - simple answer is whilst the parts are cheap enough the labour makes it expensive. Think the Seat dealership wanted at least 300 quid to fix mine when i asked. I fixed it properly for about 12 quid and a few hours of my time. Drying the carpet and underlay out is a pain depending on how wet it actually is, really needs to be taken out to dry, but in this weather shouldn't be too difficult.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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V8 FOU said:
Crappy Spanish hatchback.....Resale silver.... EML light on...... Doors won't open..... Water leaks??
Really??

Ahm oot....

Weigh it in - Shed in the worst sense.
Most of this is par for the course with an old shed.

Blackpuddin

16,555 posts

206 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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This wetness problem is a VAG one not just SEAT. I had a Passat Estate that was drenched on the whole passenger side (where a key ECU lives) thanks to VW's genius drainage system. Before that had a Mk 4 Golf that needed holes drilling in the floor, again on the passenger side.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Qubit said:
The others aren't difficult or expensive to fix, mostly just the time.

For everyone asking why the door leaks haven't been fixed by the mechanic in question - simple answer is whilst the parts are cheap enough the labour makes it expensive. Think the Seat dealership wanted at least 300 quid to fix mine when i asked. I fixed it properly for about 12 quid and a few hours of my time. Drying the carpet and underlay out is a pain depending on how wet it actually is, really needs to be taken out to dry, but in this weather shouldn't be too difficult.
That wasn't my experience. Had 2/3 attempts to try and stop the leaks on mine and it was never right, even after changing all the seals and totally drying the car out.

Just go on one of the owners forums and do a search. Sometimes it is an easy fix but other times it can be a massive PITA..... that is most likely why it hasn't been fixed on this one. As I said, somewhat 'trivial' problem but can really wreck the enjoyment of the car if it can't be sorted.

aka_kerrly

12,419 posts

211 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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There are far far better Leon Cupras out there for £1k including 2002/3 Facelift models, it just appears that this particular example is the only sub £1k on PH.




Aids0G

506 posts

150 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Ok so serious question for the masses of PH

For the cost of the sub 8 pack on the new cupra £4,200, would it be possible to buy this 'shed' and modify it to the extent that it would do a lap of the ring in sub 8?

Let's assume that the she must remain road legal and run the same tyres.

Ag

Howroyd

665 posts

124 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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KimJongHealthy said:
Surely door can be fixed with £5 part from scrappy and seals won't cost much more on ebay?
Without a doubt - older VAG door locks are pretty easy to take to pieces and reassemble IMHO. The should be an easy fix

Madkat

1,147 posts

173 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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IIRC there's a recall on the coil packs, I know it was the case on my MK4 ibiza cupra and my MK1 octavia vrs.

I really like the leon cupra and love the R. im now driving it's blobby younger brother in FR guise and theyre both everything a car should be, cheap, practical, quick, not bad looking and parts are ten to the penny and a wealth of knowledge out there for them and the engines, well lets say i'd be on my third if i didn't want something less long in the tooth.

Lets face it some mobile phones cost as much as 800 quid these days so i say bargain.

Edited by Madkat on Friday 26th June 14:22

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Limpet said:
Best SOTW for ages. Cheap, reliable, bit of poke, easy and cheap to get parts for, easily tweakable and in good nick. Love it.
Err - in what way is it better than the E39 528i a couple of weeks ago?

Qubit

142 posts

124 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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RoverP6B said:
Err - in what way is it better than the E39 528i a couple of weeks ago?
That bmw had money pit written all over it. Had been there a while, less than a month MOT, BMWs not cheap on the suspension refresh front and I bet it would have needed it to be even vaguely driveable. At least with the Leon you could almost certainly fix the leaks and door issues yourself (its over 100 quid cheaper and 5 years newer for a start). This one id consider as a shed, the bmw no chance. But everyone is different smile