What's going on with headlights now?

What's going on with headlights now?

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Escort3500

11,919 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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The worst offender of the current crop, made all the worse by the rest of the 'design'.


8Ace

2,696 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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supersingle said:
Funkstar De Luxe said:
Negative Creep said:
Bring back separate front indicators that you can actually see as well
Hear, hear! I'm sick of being stuck at roundabouts because I literally cannot see some indicators until they are 3ft away from me. Dangerous.
Bring back the amber indicator lense. I don't want lights to be 'car jewellery', I want to be able to see the indicator and see whether it is on or off.

Plus, I like the unpretentious look. I much prefer the looks of cars from the 80s and 90s than those of any modern bilge.
Oh so many times this. I find the indicators on VWs to be particularly hard to see with the clear lens all in the same strcuture. Not that the fkers use them half the time anyway.

An example of doing it right:


Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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8Ace said:
Oh so many times this. I find the indicators on VWs to be particularly hard to see with the clear lens all in the same strcuture. Not that the fkers use them half the time anyway.

An example of doing it right:

Headlights on the front, amber indicators front and side... Swoon...

fangio

988 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Escort3500 said:
The worst offender of the current crop, made all the worse by the rest of the 'design'.

A 'car' only it's mother could loveeek; did the designer have a white stick?

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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fangio said:
A 'car' only it's mother could loveeek; did the designer have a white stick?
People seem to love them as well... Must be good finance deals or lease deals is all I can assume

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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This is what you get when you try to keep both camps happy:

Funkstar De Luxe

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788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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CraigyMc said:
This is what you get when you try to keep both camps happy:
So, 100% awesome?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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supersingle said:


There you go: lights at the front, amber indicator lenses. What's not to like?

Shame Peugeot screwed it up by fitting clear lenses.
What?

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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RobinBanks said:
What?
Fitting clear lenses to the indicators [instead of the amber ones seen in the pic]

andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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It's doing this at me, squinty, smirky piece of st


CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Escort3500 said:
The worst offender of the current crop, made all the worse by the rest of the 'design'.

Worst? Not even the worst in Nissan's own range.

Exhibit A:

ajprice

27,524 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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It might be partly to do with American (and maybe some other countries) regulations about side reflectors at the front and back of the car. Rather than having extra bits in the bumper sides like the Jag XJ above, build the headlight to have the front lights and side reflectors in one go. The US Fiesta has side reflectors like this, the European/UK one has a big blank chrome bit.


Tractor lad

150 posts

107 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Some old cars took it to extremes though....


croyde

22,969 posts

231 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Remember if you smashed a headlight or broke off a mirror you could just pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a few quid.

Mirrors are hitting £300 each on even a lowly shopping car and lord knows what it would cost to replace those all in one bulbous bubbles that they call headlamps these days.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Nickbrapp said:
What about the bonnet having to be a certain hight than before . If you had lights just on the front it would leave a larger gap so they are moved up and shapped
IIRC, it's that a certain amount of space has to exist between the mechanical components and the bonnet.

Puddenchucker

4,106 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Ali_T said:
Nickbrapp said:
What about the bonnet having to be a certain hight than before . If you had lights just on the front it would leave a larger gap so they are moved up and shapped
IIRC, it's that a certain amount of space has to exist between the mechanical components and the bonnet.
It's why some cars have 'pop-up' bonnets that have springs or pyro/explosive actuators to raise it, and thus created more space to the hard bits (suspension turrets etc) in the event of a crash.

Roger Irrelevant

2,944 posts

114 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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I was miffed to discover out that to replace the side light on my 2003 Accord you have to remove the wheel arch liner, so this daftness has been going on for a while. I've been putting the job off as I just know that when I try to do it I'll break a load of the fixing brackets and then have to wait months to get more, at vast expense, from Japan.

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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croyde said:
Remember if you smashed a headlight or broke off a mirror you could just pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a few quid.

Mirrors are hitting £300 each on even a lowly shopping car and lord knows what it would cost to replace those all in one bulbous bubbles that they call headlamps these days.
Old mirrors didn't demist or have adjustment from inside the car, let alone electrical adjustment from inside the car. They also didn't fold, pretty often.

Not really an apples for apples comparison. I prefer the expensive ones that do nice things like auto dim/auto demist/fold/position.

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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A lot of this was driven by the US requirement to have lights visible from certain angles at the side. I would presume the EU regulations have changed accordingly also.

It's for safety.


Cyder

7,058 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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GroundEffect said:
A lot of this was driven by the US requirement to have lights visible from certain angles at the side. I would presume the EU regulations have changed accordingly also.

It's for safety.
Sorry it's not, you can achieve the EU regulations with lamps mounted solely on the front face of the car. (Of course if you share a lamp with the US version then the side reflectors may be mounted in the lamp like the Fiesta).

It's styling and styling only. They love 'wrap around'.

We engineery types could package a front mounted lamp (a la that weird Citroen thing) if that's what styling wanted us to make.