RE: Jaguar XK/XKR (X150): PH Buying Guide
Discussion
Bought mine a few months ago (2012 XKR) and absolutely love it. Probably paid over the odds on reflection but on this occasion don't mind too much as its such a fantastic car in so many ways. Think I spotted it on an old thread a while back coincidentally so a PH-er owned car it seems at some point
GeniusOfLove said:
These have had an absolute hammering value wise this year, WBAC have started offering next to nothing and even dealers are accepting CAP values are a fantasy when disposing of trade ins:
FWIW I think they'll be lucky to get the Buy It Now amounts.
As mentioned dealers and some private sellers are holding out for fat margins, but for example I know this car finally sold at trade auction for a hair over £13k after about 7 or 8 runs round the block.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310233...
The late facelift models in exciting colours with next to no miles on them still seem to get high teens to early 20s on a good day, but everything else changes hands for eyebrow raising sums at trade, so if you do pay top whack you better plan to keep the car long term or you'll lose 1/3rd overnight. Trade avoiding them unless they cost buttons very strongly implies they don't sell well at retail.
I picked up a somewhat leggy (130k miles) fully historied 5.0 XKR convertible so cheaply that it would have been rude not to buy it a couple of months ago, I've had to fix a few niggles and I'm having a new roof put on it, but with the Elite rear silencer a PO has fitted it's absolutely hilariously funny to make progress in and has been great as my 1,200 mile a month daily. I can't think of anything better without spending several multiples of what it cost. I keep getting tempted by the £16k 60,000 mile DB9s that keep cropping up but I have zero confidence they would stand being actually used as a car.
I've even come to like the silver.
ETA - X100s have also taken a huge beating at trade, the 4.2 models will do slightly better but again only the last of the line cars with low miles get more than shed money. This suggests they're not selling either. It makes sense - mortgage doubles, energy bill doubles, grocery bill up 50%, running a thirsty old Jaguar stops being a priority. Definitely a buyers market.
I've hankered after one of these for ages, amazing seeing the prices that they're up for on BCA! Just need me a trader now to get me one hahFWIW I think they'll be lucky to get the Buy It Now amounts.
As mentioned dealers and some private sellers are holding out for fat margins, but for example I know this car finally sold at trade auction for a hair over £13k after about 7 or 8 runs round the block.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310233...
The late facelift models in exciting colours with next to no miles on them still seem to get high teens to early 20s on a good day, but everything else changes hands for eyebrow raising sums at trade, so if you do pay top whack you better plan to keep the car long term or you'll lose 1/3rd overnight. Trade avoiding them unless they cost buttons very strongly implies they don't sell well at retail.
I picked up a somewhat leggy (130k miles) fully historied 5.0 XKR convertible so cheaply that it would have been rude not to buy it a couple of months ago, I've had to fix a few niggles and I'm having a new roof put on it, but with the Elite rear silencer a PO has fitted it's absolutely hilariously funny to make progress in and has been great as my 1,200 mile a month daily. I can't think of anything better without spending several multiples of what it cost. I keep getting tempted by the £16k 60,000 mile DB9s that keep cropping up but I have zero confidence they would stand being actually used as a car.
I've even come to like the silver.
ETA - X100s have also taken a huge beating at trade, the 4.2 models will do slightly better but again only the last of the line cars with low miles get more than shed money. This suggests they're not selling either. It makes sense - mortgage doubles, energy bill doubles, grocery bill up 50%, running a thirsty old Jaguar stops being a priority. Definitely a buyers market.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Tuesday 21st November 16:09
thecremeegg said:
I've hankered after one of these for ages, amazing seeing the prices that they're up for on BCA! Just need me a trader now to get me one hah
If you're buying privately remember that your competition to buy the car off the guy is We Buy Any Car and other such organisations, and maybe a dealer trade in, NOT the specialist dealers asking high teens and low 20s for the same sort of car.Private sellers might think they can price close to the dealers but the fact is if they ever want to actually sell the car they need to be pricing closer to trade, so go there and haggle hard. If they say no wait three months and go back. The car buying sites are offering absolutely derisory amounts for XKs at the moment so if someone wants to shift it privately you should be able to get a real bargain. Budget a couple of grand for sorting niggles out though, they're old now and will all have little issues.
Some of the better dealers add enough value with their prep and backup to justify their margins, I've seen QCT (always a source for nice Jaguars) have cars up for £18k that I know they've paid £14k trade for and I think that's entirely reasonable for their preperation, backup, and payment/finance facilities. The driveway traders expecting the same margin for collecting the car from BCA and running a gritty sponge over it can f
k right off though.GeniusOfLove said:
These have had an absolute hammering value wise this year, WBAC have started offering next to nothing and even dealers are accepting CAP values are a fantasy when disposing of trade ins:
FWIW I think they'll be lucky to get the Buy It Now amounts.
As mentioned dealers and some private sellers are holding out for fat margins, but for example I know this car finally sold at trade auction for a hair over £13k after about 7 or 8 runs round the block.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310233...
The late facelift models in exciting colours with next to no miles on them still seem to get high teens to early 20s on a good day, but everything else changes hands for eyebrow raising sums at trade, so if you do pay top whack you better plan to keep the car long term or you'll lose 1/3rd overnight. Trade avoiding them unless they cost buttons very strongly implies they don't sell well at retail.
I picked up a somewhat leggy (130k miles) fully historied 5.0 XKR convertible so cheaply that it would have been rude not to buy it a couple of months ago, I've had to fix a few niggles and I'm having a new roof put on it, but with the Elite rear silencer a PO has fitted it's absolutely hilariously funny to make progress in and has been great as my 1,200 mile a month daily. I can't think of anything better without spending several multiples of what it cost. I keep getting tempted by the £16k 60,000 mile DB9s that keep cropping up but I have zero confidence they would stand being actually used as a car.
I've even come to like the silver.
ETA - X100s have also taken a huge beating at trade, the 4.2 models will do slightly better but again only the last of the line cars with low miles get more than shed money. This suggests they're not selling either. It makes sense - mortgage doubles, energy bill doubles, grocery bill up 50%, running a thirsty old Jaguar stops being a priority. Definitely a buyers market.
Wow, this makes me feel good. FWIW I think they'll be lucky to get the Buy It Now amounts.
As mentioned dealers and some private sellers are holding out for fat margins, but for example I know this car finally sold at trade auction for a hair over £13k after about 7 or 8 runs round the block.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310233...
The late facelift models in exciting colours with next to no miles on them still seem to get high teens to early 20s on a good day, but everything else changes hands for eyebrow raising sums at trade, so if you do pay top whack you better plan to keep the car long term or you'll lose 1/3rd overnight. Trade avoiding them unless they cost buttons very strongly implies they don't sell well at retail.
I picked up a somewhat leggy (130k miles) fully historied 5.0 XKR convertible so cheaply that it would have been rude not to buy it a couple of months ago, I've had to fix a few niggles and I'm having a new roof put on it, but with the Elite rear silencer a PO has fitted it's absolutely hilariously funny to make progress in and has been great as my 1,200 mile a month daily. I can't think of anything better without spending several multiples of what it cost. I keep getting tempted by the £16k 60,000 mile DB9s that keep cropping up but I have zero confidence they would stand being actually used as a car.
I've even come to like the silver.
ETA - X100s have also taken a huge beating at trade, the 4.2 models will do slightly better but again only the last of the line cars with low miles get more than shed money. This suggests they're not selling either. It makes sense - mortgage doubles, energy bill doubles, grocery bill up 50%, running a thirsty old Jaguar stops being a priority. Definitely a buyers market.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Tuesday 21st November 16:09
I sold my 2010 5.0 Portfolio Convertible in silver, very similar to the car at the top but with 88,000 miles (and these cars are very milage sensitive when it comes to price) as a P/X to a Mazda main dealer 18 months ago for £15,500.
As I understand it, "luxury" cars are really struggling right now and especially ones towards the bottom of their depreciation curve with all the running costs of £100k cars. In some ways, we're just seeing that adjustment post-lockdown that we've all been waiting for.
ETA: Your comment about them not selling fast stands true in the case of my one. It went to an independent and was put up in about May 2022 for £17,995. It sat there all summer, dropped a grand or two, and eventually sold in Jan/Feb 2023 for what must have been no profit or even a slight loss.
By comparison, the MX5 30th Anniversary that I bought when I traded in the XK was sold back to a main dealer in May this year for £20,500 (more than WBAC would offer) and sold within a week for £23,995 (only about 2k less than the new price despite being 3.5 years old).
Edited by SweptVolume on Wednesday 22 November 11:50
SweptVolume said:
Wow, this makes me feel good.
I sold my 2010 5.0 Portfolio Convertible in silver, very similar to the car at the top but with 88,000 miles (and these cars are very milage sensitive when it comes to price) as a P/X to a Mazda main dealer 18 months ago for £15,500.
As I understand it, "luxury" cars are really struggling right now and especially ones towards the bottom of their depreciation curve with all the running costs of £100k cars. In some ways, we're just seeing that adjustment post-lockdown that we've all been waiting for.
ETA: Your comment about them not selling fast stands true in the case of my one. It went to an independent and was put up in about May 2022 for £17,995. It sat there all summer, dropped a grand or two, and eventually sold in Jan/Feb 2023 for what must have been no profit or even a slight loss.
By comparison, the MX5 30th Anniversary that I bought when I traded in the XK was sold back to a main dealer in May this year for £20,500 (more than WBAC would offer) and sold within a week for £23,995 (only about 2k less than the new price despite being 3.5 years old).
You did very well, got out at the last minute!I sold my 2010 5.0 Portfolio Convertible in silver, very similar to the car at the top but with 88,000 miles (and these cars are very milage sensitive when it comes to price) as a P/X to a Mazda main dealer 18 months ago for £15,500.
As I understand it, "luxury" cars are really struggling right now and especially ones towards the bottom of their depreciation curve with all the running costs of £100k cars. In some ways, we're just seeing that adjustment post-lockdown that we've all been waiting for.
ETA: Your comment about them not selling fast stands true in the case of my one. It went to an independent and was put up in about May 2022 for £17,995. It sat there all summer, dropped a grand or two, and eventually sold in Jan/Feb 2023 for what must have been no profit or even a slight loss.
By comparison, the MX5 30th Anniversary that I bought when I traded in the XK was sold back to a main dealer in May this year for £20,500 (more than WBAC would offer) and sold within a week for £23,995 (only about 2k less than the new price despite being 3.5 years old).
Edited by SweptVolume on Wednesday 22 November 11:50
Funnily enough I just moved on a 2019 2.0 ND2 MX5 a week before I bought the XKR. Remarkable to see them selling used for barely any less than they cost in 2019, mine had done a fair few miles and had a bit of a hard life and is up with a dealer for £4k less than I paid 4.5 years ago.
I didn't buy the 30th AE at the time, it was £5k more than the top spec regular model when I ordered in July 2019, but a couple of months later when they couldn't get shot of them I did notice they were selling them for £26k odd. I enjoyed that car a lot, I'll buy another when they're really cheap and then I can properly use it without being so bothered if it ends up in a ditch
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 22 November 19:13
Over 10 years ownership and 209,000 miles on my 2010 XKR, it's just too good to give up as my daily driver. Quick as hell (pulleyed and tuned to about 600hp), comfortable, reliable, takes 2 golf bags every week, and has been tracked many dozens of times over the years. It will never leave my ownership as long as I can still drive. I could give up my gorgeous De Tomaso Pantera in a minute but not my XKR!
monet208 said:
[Nice old thread
I owned an old XK8 for over 13yrs, replaced it in Oct 2018 with an XK Dynamic R, first white car I've ever owned.
There were only 5 in the UK with the interior trim I wanted (red quilted sport seats)
Those seats look so much better than the normal ones fitted to the XKR, think they are standard on the XKR-S too, maybe not the red quilting?I owned an old XK8 for over 13yrs, replaced it in Oct 2018 with an XK Dynamic R, first white car I've ever owned.
There were only 5 in the UK with the interior trim I wanted (red quilted sport seats)
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