Nissan warranty claim idiots

Nissan warranty claim idiots

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Sheepshanks

32,813 posts

120 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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I guess it's likely that FIAT's warranty procedure requires the dealer to try a re-gas first.

I also think they hope you'll just go away, or perhaps crash the car or something.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I guess it's likely that FIAT's warranty procedure requires the dealer to try a re-gas first.

I also think they hope you'll just go away, or perhaps crash the car or something.
Not to mention the fact that they have to claim time and parts back off Fiat, but £50 for gas they can claim straight off my credit card. Less cash-flow problems...

MitchT

15,889 posts

210 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I guess it's likely that FIAT's warranty procedure requires the dealer to try a re-gas first.
If that's the case then they should refund the re-gas fee if it doesn't work, same goes for the Nissan dealership above. If the loss of gas is caused by a problem that's covered by the warranty then the customer shouldn't end up out of pocket.

Sheepshanks

32,813 posts

120 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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MitchT said:
If that's the case then they should refund the re-gas fee if it doesn't work, same goes for the Nissan dealership above. If the loss of gas is caused by a problem that's covered by the warranty then the customer shouldn't end up out of pocket.
Of course they should. In practice they make people pay twice and are completely hard-faced about it.

Glad the OP got £100 back of FIAT. I had similar battle with SEAT (maybe the issue is companies whose names are capitals smile ) - I got £250 off them but it took a lot of back and forth. Dealer wasn't very happy when I produced the voucher to pay entirely for the next service.

eliot

11,445 posts

255 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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ging84 said:
I believe if they irresponsibly regas a system with an obvious leak they are actually committing an offense under environmental health laws

They are meant to pressure test it, especially if it is fully discharged.
exactly this.
in fact they start by pulling a vacuum to dry the system out - at this point they should notice that it wont hold a static vacuum, if the leak isn't obvious they then charge it with a different gas and then go sniffing for it.
ac gas is the last thing that goes in.

MajorProblem

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4,700 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Another update,

Mrs took car in and dropped it off for compressor renewal taking the hire car for the rest of the day, at dinner they rang her to say we are not dealing with Nissan anymore come and get your car NOW.

So we have the car back not fixed and need another Nissan dealer to look at it, they need to take it in for another diagnosis and then effect repair when happy.

To say we are fking pissed off with Nissan is an understatement.

We've had to pay for their incompetence (paying for re gassing) and the wife has had to have time off work every time to take the car in.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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MajorProblem said:
at dinner they rang her to say we are not dealing with Nissan anymore come and get your car NOW.


Nissan have sacked 'em as dealers.

MajorProblem said:
So we have the car back not fixed and need another Nissan dealer to look at it
<looks back to page 1 of thread, 3rd July> Now, what was it I suggested back then?

MajorProblem

Original Poster:

4,700 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
<looks back to page 1 of thread, 3rd July> Now, what was it I suggested back then?
The car is leased - we were told to take it there.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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MajorProblem said:
The car is leased - we were told to take it there.
To a Nissan dealer.

SimonD

486 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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16 years ago I had a Rover Coupe. Had it from 2 years old. 6 months into ownership the aircon stopped working, so I took it into the dealer. There was no obvious cracks in the pipework, so they explained that they'd have to regas it, and if a leak was found then it'd be fixed under warranty and the regas cost refunded. If no leak was found then I'd just pay for the regas. That's the logical reasonable way to do things, surely?

As it turns out one of the pipes was leaking, so it was fixed and returned to me at zero cost... But obviously somehow Japanese reliability trumps British etc etc wink

Sheepshanks

32,813 posts

120 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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MajorProblem said:
... and the wife has had to have time off work every time to take the car in.
Normally leasing companies will arrange collection and delivery.

chryslerben

1,175 posts

160 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Mr Gear said:
But why do such monkeys get to work on complex machines such as cars? Basic logic will tell you it's leaking and something needs to be fixed, you don't need to be an engineer to work that out.
Basically because no one else in their right mind would bother working in aftersales.

Been there, done it, got almightly hacked off with it.

Saying that the dealer I run the workshop for we had the highest customer satisfaction ratings within brand, even got some nice "trophies" to put on display. You find that the guys that are any decent at using logical process to diagnose issues very quickly use those logical process skills to work out "WTF am I doing in this industry" no matter how well you treat them as staff the wages are low the hours can be unsociable and you generally get shat on from every angle. but enough of the boohoo's

Op contact Nissan Uk as the dealers took the right piddle with you.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
<looks back to page 1 of thread, 3rd July> Now, what was it I suggested back then?

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

172 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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MajorProblem said:
So we have the car back not fixed and need another Nissan dealer to look at it,
Where i really hope they don't insist on a re-gas first. I would go into full "falling down" mode if that happens.

podwin

652 posts

203 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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I remember I had a 405 with aircon in 1998, it didn't work so left it with the garage.

They said it was OK and so took it back, it was no different.

When I went back and explained it still wasn't working, it turned out that they'd simply pressed the button and saw the light come on, so it must be working.

TommoAE86

2,669 posts

128 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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masermartin said:
..let's say that's Winchester...
Just as an aside, the Winchester service manager was very good sourcing a part for my 1993 Nissan, he did huff abit at the annoyance of ordering said item but was good at finding the right bits/checking if I could still get them. Even went on to say "I'd get this from a diy store, you're being way over charged getting that from us" biggrin

MajorProblem

Original Poster:

4,700 posts

165 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
To a Nissan dealer.
Lease company called and told us that dealer. Presuming as it was the nearest one and I didn't have to go 60 miles out my way to the next one.

Sheepshanks said:
Normally leasing companies will arrange collection and delivery.
Nope.

cb010

76 posts

112 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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If the payment was made via a card for the unnecessary re-gas you can simply phone your bank/card provider and ask them to refund the amount to you via a chargeback. Quick and easy.

If more people did this (or perhaps refrained from blindly agreeing to the charge in the first place) instead of simply moaning about it dealerships wouldn't get away with it.

Sheepshanks

32,813 posts

120 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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cb010 said:
If the payment was made via a card for the unnecessary re-gas you can simply phone your bank/card provider and ask them to refund the amount to you via a chargeback. Quick and easy.
I love it when people who've obviously never done this suggest it.

cb010

76 posts

112 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I love it when people who've obviously never done this suggest it.
I've done it a couple of times where a seller has acted dishonestly or refused to act in accordance with statutory rights. On both occasions it was a straightforward process requiring minimal effort apart from the provision of documentary evidence.