Cars you want but will never buy
Discussion
Being realistic with the cost of buying, would love a Jaguar XJS/XK8 - prices are OK, but potential bills keep me away. Doesn't stop me looking frequently at the classifieds, though.
Ford Mustang - prices have dropped a bit, but left-hand drive just doesn't appeal, even though the car does.
Ford Mustang - prices have dropped a bit, but left-hand drive just doesn't appeal, even though the car does.
Would dearly love a Ferrari 250 swb ... but its not going to happen even with a lottery win.
Re the F355 being slow, the main problem is that on test drives people only get to 3,000 / 4,000 revs where there isn't that much power, most of it comes above 5,000/6,000 but you run out of road very quickly and dealers don't particularly like those kind of revs on a test drive ( cant blame them !!)
Had 2 griff 500's, 1 chimaera 500 (with an ex Tuscan challenge engine) and a chimaera 400, not one of them would be anywhere near a good F355 in a straight line and certainly you wouldn't see which way it went through the bends.
At best (unless seriously tuned) a griff is 270BHP and a 355 375 BHP at 8,250 revs !!!
Phib
Re the F355 being slow, the main problem is that on test drives people only get to 3,000 / 4,000 revs where there isn't that much power, most of it comes above 5,000/6,000 but you run out of road very quickly and dealers don't particularly like those kind of revs on a test drive ( cant blame them !!)
Had 2 griff 500's, 1 chimaera 500 (with an ex Tuscan challenge engine) and a chimaera 400, not one of them would be anywhere near a good F355 in a straight line and certainly you wouldn't see which way it went through the bends.
At best (unless seriously tuned) a griff is 270BHP and a 355 375 BHP at 8,250 revs !!!
Phib
Absolutely loads. They would all be a lot more tempting if I had the garage space...
Maserati 3200
For: The boomerang rear lights and having a Maserati
Against: Wallet fears
Pre 2000 Impreza, ideally a 22B
For: Always wanted one, Colin McRae...
Against: Will never afford a 22B now I presume
Diablo
For: Last Lambo before Audi got involved, that engine
Against: They've started to appreciate rapidly now, I'll never make enough money to catch up
Alpine A610 or GTA
For: Always thought they looked awesome, especially the A610 in yellow or the GTA in maroon.
Against: Wallet fears
355
For: Open gate shifter and high revving V8
Against: These'll be well on the way up in value by the time a purchase is feasible
BMW 840
For: Looks great, no B pillars, pop up lights
Against: Wallet fears
R32 Skyline
For: Like how it looks, fond Gran Turismo memories
Against: Other stuff on this list is more exciting
Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo
For: Looks great, interesting sounding engine, can make good power
Against: I've already got a great looking, great sounding, torque steering Italian coupe from the 90s with a Pininfarina badge on it.
Lotus Esprit V8
For: The red one on those wheels in the Top Gear special just looked absolutely fantastic
Against: Doesn't sound that great and standard Lotus fears
I'm going to stop as I could go on for bloody ages
Maserati 3200
For: The boomerang rear lights and having a Maserati
Against: Wallet fears
Pre 2000 Impreza, ideally a 22B
For: Always wanted one, Colin McRae...
Against: Will never afford a 22B now I presume
Diablo
For: Last Lambo before Audi got involved, that engine
Against: They've started to appreciate rapidly now, I'll never make enough money to catch up
Alpine A610 or GTA
For: Always thought they looked awesome, especially the A610 in yellow or the GTA in maroon.
Against: Wallet fears
355
For: Open gate shifter and high revving V8
Against: These'll be well on the way up in value by the time a purchase is feasible
BMW 840
For: Looks great, no B pillars, pop up lights
Against: Wallet fears
R32 Skyline
For: Like how it looks, fond Gran Turismo memories
Against: Other stuff on this list is more exciting
Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo
For: Looks great, interesting sounding engine, can make good power
Against: I've already got a great looking, great sounding, torque steering Italian coupe from the 90s with a Pininfarina badge on it.
Lotus Esprit V8
For: The red one on those wheels in the Top Gear special just looked absolutely fantastic
Against: Doesn't sound that great and standard Lotus fears
I'm going to stop as I could go on for bloody ages
Does 'justify' mean the same as 'afford' for this thread?
Loads of cars I want but can't afford to buy/run. If I could, I would give them a go, regardless of reliability or cost. Otherwise I don't really want it, do I?
Pointless saying "I've always wanted a Maserati but know it would always have issues". I would suggest that you either do not actually want a Maserati or you can't afford to have the issues sorted. If you really wanted one and could afford to have it taken care of, what more justification does a purchase need?
For my contribution to the thread, I'd love an old Maserati or Ferrari. Something 60's/70's type era. I can't afford one and even if something came along at the right price, I couldn't afford to maintain them properly. If I could, I would.
Loads of cars I want but can't afford to buy/run. If I could, I would give them a go, regardless of reliability or cost. Otherwise I don't really want it, do I?
Pointless saying "I've always wanted a Maserati but know it would always have issues". I would suggest that you either do not actually want a Maserati or you can't afford to have the issues sorted. If you really wanted one and could afford to have it taken care of, what more justification does a purchase need?
For my contribution to the thread, I'd love an old Maserati or Ferrari. Something 60's/70's type era. I can't afford one and even if something came along at the right price, I couldn't afford to maintain them properly. If I could, I would.
Disastrous said:
Does 'justify' mean the same as 'afford' for this thread?
Loads of cars I want but can't afford to buy/run. If I could, I would give them a go, regardless of reliability or cost. Otherwise I don't really want it, do I?
Pointless saying "I've always wanted a Maserati but know it would always have issues". I would suggest that you either do not actually want a Maserati or you can't afford to have the issues sorted. If you really wanted one and could afford to have it taken care of, what more justification does a purchase need?
For my contribution to the thread, I'd love an old Maserati or Ferrari. Something 60's/70's type era. I can't afford one and even if something came along at the right price, I couldn't afford to maintain them properly. If I could, I would.
I think along these lines, too. I know when the Puma goes in for a Service or repair work (even at main dealer costs) I can afford to have what it needs to keep it in tip-top condition. Wouldn't be the same with a Jag, I'm sure, and I certainly don't want to keep a car on the road that is kept on a shoe-string budget. Reminds me of the old quotation - "If you can't afford a new one, you can't afford to run an old one."Loads of cars I want but can't afford to buy/run. If I could, I would give them a go, regardless of reliability or cost. Otherwise I don't really want it, do I?
Pointless saying "I've always wanted a Maserati but know it would always have issues". I would suggest that you either do not actually want a Maserati or you can't afford to have the issues sorted. If you really wanted one and could afford to have it taken care of, what more justification does a purchase need?
For my contribution to the thread, I'd love an old Maserati or Ferrari. Something 60's/70's type era. I can't afford one and even if something came along at the right price, I couldn't afford to maintain them properly. If I could, I would.
I think this thread is about cars you could afford if you wanted to but will not own because:
They are a bit chavvy/you feel too self conscious to own
They are impractical for your lifestyle
You are scared they will go wrong
You'd have to sell something more practical/lower running costs to make room for it
You'd probably sit and look at it but never drive it
etc....
Saying you'd like a Veyron but can only afford a diesel Sierra is missing the point a bit.
They are a bit chavvy/you feel too self conscious to own
They are impractical for your lifestyle
You are scared they will go wrong
You'd have to sell something more practical/lower running costs to make room for it
You'd probably sit and look at it but never drive it
etc....
Saying you'd like a Veyron but can only afford a diesel Sierra is missing the point a bit.
wormus said:
I think this thread is about cars you could afford if you wanted to but will not own because:
They are a bit chavvy/you feel too self conscious to own
They are impractical for your lifestyle
You are scared they will go wrong
You'd have to sell something more practical/lower running costs to make room for it
You'd probably sit and look at it but never drive it
etc....
Saying you'd like a Veyron but can only afford a diesel Sierra is missing the point a bit.
All your reasons are 'can't afford it' or 'don't actually want it' though.They are a bit chavvy/you feel too self conscious to own
They are impractical for your lifestyle
You are scared they will go wrong
You'd have to sell something more practical/lower running costs to make room for it
You'd probably sit and look at it but never drive it
etc....
Saying you'd like a Veyron but can only afford a diesel Sierra is missing the point a bit.
I want a caterham more than anything, I spend hours watching you tube videos etc but I can never justify spending what is to us a lot of money on a toy just for me, my wife is not into cars and my daughters have inherited my Land Rover fasination rather than sports cars!
The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
Disastrous said:
All your reasons are 'can't afford it' or 'don't actually want it' though.
Not really. There are many things I admire from afar or idly look for on eBay wondering how I could justify my purchase to my wife if I hit the 'buy it now' button. Example, I keep looking for Haybusa turbos and nearly bought one last year. Wish I had because it was a beauty but I bottled it. I also keep looking at Z-car Minis and want to build a Hayabusa-powered smart car. I also keep looking at Rover SD1s and RR Classic 3 doors.I have many Classic American magazines and one day I will have a 70's Yank tank.
Cfnteabag said:
I want a caterham more than anything, I spend hours watching you tube videos etc but I can never justify spending what is to us a lot of money on a toy just for me, my wife is not into cars and my daughters have inherited my Land Rover fasination rather than sports cars!
The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
See, he 'gets' it. The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 15th July 13:30
wormus said:
Cfnteabag said:
I want a cater ham more than anything, I spend hours watching you tube videos etc but I can never justify spending what is to us a lot of money on a toy just for me, my wife is not into cars and my daughters have inherited my Land Rover fasination rather than sports cars!
The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
See, he 'gets' it. The other car I find myself watching everyone that comes up for sale is a Felicia Fun, crazy bright yellow pick up truck covered in frogs but like to rust in hard to reach places!
I don't see 'can't afford it' as a negative btw. We all make choices on what we can and can't afford according to priorities. I want a million things from a new boat to a new motorbike to everything in between but I can't afford them all. If I had unlimited money, I'd definitely have them!
Disastrous said:
Does he? I'm really not having a go but the parts I've bolded don't add up. If I want something more than anything, then obviously that places it higher than the wishes of my OH.
I don't see 'can't afford it' as a negative btw. We all make choices on what we can and can't afford according to priorities. I want a million things from a new boat to a new motorbike to everything in between but I can't afford them all. If I had unlimited money, I'd definitely have them!
I disagree, we all live within the constraints we put upon ourselves. For example, my job is OK but it's not vocational and I wish I was brave enough to retrain and do something I love. However, I have a wife an family to support and I feel to do so would be selfish and irresponsible. I don't see 'can't afford it' as a negative btw. We all make choices on what we can and can't afford according to priorities. I want a million things from a new boat to a new motorbike to everything in between but I can't afford them all. If I had unlimited money, I'd definitely have them!
wormus said:
Disastrous said:
Does he? I'm really not having a go but the parts I've bolded don't add up. If I want something more than anything, then obviously that places it higher than the wishes of my OH.
I don't see 'can't afford it' as a negative btw. We all make choices on what we can and can't afford according to priorities. I want a million things from a new boat to a new motorbike to everything in between but I can't afford them all. If I had unlimited money, I'd definitely have them!
I disagree, we all live within the constraints we put upon ourselves. For example, my job is OK but it's not vocational and I wish I was brave enough to retrain and do something I love. However, I have a wife an family to support and I feel to do so would be selfish and irresponsible. I don't see 'can't afford it' as a negative btw. We all make choices on what we can and can't afford according to priorities. I want a million things from a new boat to a new motorbike to everything in between but I can't afford them all. If I had unlimited money, I'd definitely have them!
I meant 'we all make choices...' as exactly the same as 'we all live within the constraints...'
My point is that those constraints are ultimately money and time. Money, because why wouldn't you, if money was no object and time because we have a limited amount of it and prefer to spend it doing what we really want.
Take flying a glider. I'd quite like to do it, but spend most of my time performing music with my band, sailing and riding motorbikes. I could afford to take lessons but would have to bin off something else to find the time, hence I don't really want to, as I prefer the things I do at the moment.
Take owning a plane. I'd love to do that but can't afford one. The end. If I could, I'd bin off something else time-wise to pursue it.
That's all I mean.
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