NSX vs 996 Turbo?

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DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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those quoting numbers from the brochure are kind of missing the point of an NSX, or any performance Hodna to be fair

GetCarter

29,379 posts

279 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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RobM77 said:
GetCarter said:
hondafreek said:
NXS, loads of Porsches around where I live, I don't even look at them anymore, if an NSX drove past, I'd probably chase it like dog.
Rare doesn't mean anything to those who drive rather than collect. I see shed loads of Caterhams here and the occasional Westfield. Doesn't mean I chase the Westie like a dog wink
nono This is Pistonheads, where rarity is the ultimate accolade for a car, alongside image/imagine and how big the engine is. wink
Of course.. How long have I been here! I should have remembered ...style/image/rare/lust over substance wink

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LordGrover said:
Who doesn't love pop-up headlights?
By far the best point so far. smile

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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GetCarter said:
RobM77 said:
GetCarter said:
hondafreek said:
NXS, loads of Porsches around where I live, I don't even look at them anymore, if an NSX drove past, I'd probably chase it like dog.
Rare doesn't mean anything to those who drive rather than collect. I see shed loads of Caterhams here and the occasional Westfield. Doesn't mean I chase the Westie like a dog wink
nono This is Pistonheads, where rarity is the ultimate accolade for a car, alongside image/imagine and how big the engine is. wink
Of course.. How long have I been here! I should have remembered ...style/image/rare/lust over substance wink
biggrin Yep! I'm glad I'm not the only one who fings it frustrating, although in this instance the better handling, better looking and better sounding car is actually the rarer of the two so we all agree smile

dobly

1,185 posts

159 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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NSX, no question.

rotarymazda

538 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Onetrackmind said:
Which would you have and why?
I looked at this decision back ~10 years ago. A previous boss had an early NSX which I liked but I thought I should check out the Porsche. The NSX just had more "I want".

So I went for a series 8 RX7 instead smile 10% more power and 10% lighter than the NSX and you still get the pop-up headlights. The rotary reputation was a concern at the time but it's been very cheap to run.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Baryonyx said:
Jasandjules said:
Out of those two I would have the Porker. NSX is just too dated looking now for me.
Pistonheads: image matters.
Looks != image.

captainsl0w

69 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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As far as running, maintenance and insurance costs - both will be very similar if you rely on garage servicing. If youre a DIYer, there might be some saving with porsche being parts quite a bit cheaper. More market choice at more consistent price points for the 911 generally

Both are in the same ballpark purchase price-wise and both will uptick in value (the 911 more predictably and consistently)

The 911 doesnt have the notable reliability woes of the non-mesger n/as, so no big reliability advantage for the NSX

Performance-wise, worlds apart in most ways.

I looked very seriously at both last year and ended up scratching an old itch instead and bought an Evo

DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Jasandjules said:
Out of those two I would have the Porker. NSX is just too dated looking now for me.
As if I didn't hate that term enough, you just used it to describe a Honda NSX.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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DanielJames said:
Jasandjules said:
Out of those two I would have the Porker. NSX is just too dated looking now for me.
As if I didn't hate that term enough, you just used it to describe a Honda NSX.
I don't see the issue with the statement - its design is very much of its time - its looks date it in the 90s.

DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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xRIEx said:
DanielJames said:
Jasandjules said:
Out of those two I would have the Porker. NSX is just too dated looking now for me.
As if I didn't hate that term enough, you just used it to describe a Honda NSX.
I don't see the issue with the statement - its design is very much of its time - its looks date it in the 90s.
It's not so much the word itself, or its meaning, it's that people use it as an opinion. How can something look dated to some but not to others? It's a 25 year old design, how do you expect it to look?

Next you'll be saying this looks dated wink


Patrick Bateman

12,180 posts

174 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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NSX

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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DanielJames said:
xRIEx said:
DanielJames said:
Jasandjules said:
Out of those two I would have the Porker. NSX is just too dated looking now for me.
As if I didn't hate that term enough, you just used it to describe a Honda NSX.
I don't see the issue with the statement - its design is very much of its time - its looks date it in the 90s.
It's not so much the word itself, or its meaning, it's that people use it as an opinion. How can something look dated to some but not to others? It's a 25 year old design, how do you expect it to look?

Next you'll be saying this looks dated wink

The 911 was one that crossed my mind actually while typing - it's not as easy to date a 911 as the design has remained broadly unchanged for 50 years, so it's less likely to look dated - a 1960's 911 will still look reminiscent of a 2010 911.

Obviously anyone with a passing knowledge of Porsches can spot differences between different generations and models, but that's not the discussion - it's the very fact the 911 in its basic existence has spanned generations that means it's less dateable. The most easily dateable model is probably the 996 due to the headlight shape.

So quite the opposite, I wouldn't say that 911 looks dated wink

DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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xRIEx said:
The 911 was one that crossed my mind actually while typing - it's not as easy to date a 911 as the design has remained broadly unchanged for 50 years, so it's less likely to look dated - a 1960's 911 will still look reminiscent of a 2010 911.

Obviously anyone with a passing knowledge of Porsches can spot differences between different generations and models, but that's not the discussion - it's the very fact the 911 in its basic existence has spanned generations that means it's less dateable. The most easily dateable model is probably the 996 due to the headlight shape.

So quite the opposite, I wouldn't say that 911 looks dated wink
So the Porsche looks old, but not dated?

My problem isn't with the cars being old, they are old, it's the word. I just don't think it's a word we should use to describe cars.

I guess I'm just sick of hearing it, owning a string of 90s cars! hehe

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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NSX

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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The C30 engine in the NSX sounds amazing and I'm sure would be very fun to thrash around. There would be massive temptation to slap a turbo on it though - then you have the best of both worlds.

daveco

4,126 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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NSX without a doubt.

Best Motoring vids and Gran Turismo have a lot to answer for: nothing seemed to be able to touch them on track and unlike the rest of the Japanese crop they are naturally aspirated screamers with the heritage and exotic engine position to boot.


Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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C.A.R. said:
The C30 engine in the NSX sounds amazing and I'm sure would be very fun to thrash around. There would be massive temptation to slap a turbo on it though - then you have the best of both worlds.
Why would you slap a turbo on it? I think it would ruin the engine

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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rotarymazda said:
Onetrackmind said:
Which would you have and why?
I looked at this decision back ~10 years ago. A previous boss had an early NSX which I liked but I thought I should check out the Porsche. The NSX just had more "I want".

So I went for a series 8 RX7 instead smile 10% more power and 10% lighter than the NSX and you still get the pop-up headlights. The rotary reputation was a concern at the time but it's been very cheap to run.
How did they circumnavigate the Gentlemen's agreement - I thought it was still in place at the time?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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C.A.R. said:
The C30 engine in the NSX sounds amazing and I'm sure would be very fun to thrash around. There would be massive temptation to slap a turbo on it though - then you have the best of both worlds.
More like the worst. Why would you want to turbocharge one of the finest production engines ever built. There are plenty of Japenese dragsters out there if that's your thing.