How would you deal with this eBay buyer?

How would you deal with this eBay buyer?

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copestake

Original Poster:

280 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Guy brought a part from last Thursday morning & requested I dispatched same day. He paid for express 24 delivery by Parcelforce.

I took the parcel to the post office at 3pm (because I was work) & marked as dispatched on eBay.

On the Friday afternoon I receive an arsey message in broken English complaining it's not arrived. I kindly stated that I'd dispatched same day as soon as I could on the service he paid for & provided tracking information.

Anyway according the tracking information it wasn't collected from the post office until mid day Friday so it will be no doubt delivered Monday but this morning I received a message saying he wants his money back. How would you proceed? Obviously I will decline but will eBay side with him and leave me out of pocket? Also assuming I will get bad feedback will eBay remove it?

Good day

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Has the buyer received the item (was it delivered on Saturday)?

What have you stated on your listing as your 'returns policy'?

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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I would expect eBay to side with you, especially if you enter the tracking details into the dispatched information.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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He'll maybe calm down once it has arrived.

If he does leave negative feedback, I doubt ebay with be concerned.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

143 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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I went through a similar scenario with a broken English buyer.

The reason for my hassle was the item I sold him failed to reach the amount offered by his local pawn shop (I jest not).

I agreed for him to return the item and refunded him as his track record was leaving negative feedback. In hindsight I should have F**ked him right off. I didn`t need the negative as I was selling a few items and I know it puts buyers off.

I`d say let him keep it. He`s at it. Oh and ebay don`t give a toss they only care about fees.

Edited by bigkeeko on Sunday 5th July 14:02

emicen

8,578 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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24hr service, you shipped on a 24hr service. No problem.

Do private listings have handling time? That'll be your clincher.

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Unless you have specifically excluded returns in the listing, the buyer is entitled to his/her money back (for whatever reason) on return of the item.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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You've nothing to worry about as long as you despatched it within the despatch time you quoted in the auction.

If you are set to accept returns there is nothing stopping him asking to return it for a refund.

copestake

Original Poster:

280 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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He really doesn't have an argument but it's annoying he believes it's my fault & is likely to leave bad feedback. I do have returns accepted but seeing as he's that desperate I doubt he will be sending it back.

Holding back the urge to tell him how it is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Just a thought but what 24 hour service did you use? Should they have delivered it on Saturday according to their terms because if so you can probably claim the postage back from them and refund the buyer.

If not then just politely explain to him you sent it out within the despatch time listed in the auction and send him a link to the T&C's of the service you used.

No point in getting arsey, it never helps.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

153 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Just be polite and hopefully he will give up arguing when it arrives. You should be ok if he makes a dispute but I wouldn't assume anything with ebay/paypal.

I've long since given up with ebay after being shafted several times.

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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copestake said:
Holding back the urge to tell him how it is.
charltjr said:
No point in getting arsey, it never helps.
Don't bother arguing, wasting both your time and emotions. wink

If you can only write an angry response, don't write back immediately. Wait until you have calmed down enough to reply objectively. Wait until you can propose a sensible solution, not a reactive response. Wait until you can reply politely and factually. Wait until you can even impress your buyer with your impartiality.

It is amazing how this can transform the tone of the discussion in a lot of cases. Sometimes using this approach, a difficult situation can be turned into a good outcome, and your buyer may leave feeling that you have done a really good job handling the problem and give you great feedback.


Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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charltjr said:
Just a thought but what 24 hour service did you use? Should they have delivered it on Saturday according to their terms because if so you can probably claim the postage back from them and refund the buyer.

If not then just politely explain to him you sent it out within the despatch time listed in the auction and send him a link to the T&C's of the service you used.

No point in getting arsey, it never helps.
Parcelforce 24 was used, but the 24hr delivery is next working day.

Vee

3,096 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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If you offer 'next day' in your listing you should know what time the latest pick up is from the post office for the 24hr service (how is the buyer meant to know this ?) and make clear that orders need to be placed by a certain time so that you can get the item packaged to the PO.
It sounds like he ordered in good time but you didn't go to the PO until it was too late for the Saturday delivery.
Your fault IMO. The buyer has every right to feel disgruntled.
If I order on Fri am and pay 24hr service I expect delivery on Sat am, NOT Mon because the seller took half a day to get the item to the 24hr delivery company.


berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Vee said:
If you offer 'next day' in your listing you should know what time the latest pick up is from the post office for the 24hr service (how is the buyer meant to know this ?) and make clear that orders need to be placed by a certain time so that you can get the item packaged to the PO.
It sounds like he ordered in good time but you didn't go to the PO until it was too late for the Saturday delivery.
Your fault IMO. The buyer has every right to feel disgruntled.
If I order on Fri am and pay 24hr service I expect delivery on Sat am, NOT Mon because the seller took half a day to get the item to the 24hr delivery company.
Couldn't agree more.

golfer19

1,565 posts

133 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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There is a premium to pay for Saturday delivery with Parcelforce.
Post on Friday with 24hr service and it will be delivered on Monday.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Vee said:
If you offer 'next day' in your listing you should know what time the latest pick up is from the post office for the 24hr service (how is the buyer meant to know this ?) and make clear that orders need to be placed by a certain time so that you can get the item packaged to the PO.
It sounds like he ordered in good time but you didn't go to the PO until it was too late for the Saturday delivery.
Your fault IMO. The buyer has every right to feel disgruntled.
If I order on Fri am and pay 24hr service I expect delivery on Sat am, NOT Mon because the seller took half a day to get the item to the 24hr delivery company.
This.

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Parcelforce pick up from my local post office once per day sometime between 1-2pm, so after that point its not going anywhere until the next day. That is what has happened here.
Really depends on what you put - if you put 'next day delivery' or similar, then yes you have to bear part of the responsibility. If you simply stated 'sent by parcelforce 24' or that option was in the options, then no, you are not at fault as the paid for service has been provided, and the slowness is down to the limitations of the company.


Vee said:
If I order on Fri am and pay 24hr service I expect delivery on Sat am, NOT Mon because the seller took half a day to get the item to the 24hr delivery company.
I don't, as I am aware that royal mail/ parcelforce charge extra for saturday delivery and the guarantee applies to working days only.
It often happens anyway with no additional charge, but it is not guaranteed. If it specifically stated - or I had paid for- saturday delivery, then yes, I would expect it then.


Edited by GCH on Sunday 5th July 15:21

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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The buyer can't register a dispute for 'not received' until 7 days after the auction ends. By which time it should have been delivered.