Cars you wish they'd make or had made?
Discussion
Tango13 said:
Fastdruid said:
Tango13 said:
Fastdruid said:
Ford last did the 3.0 V6 Mondeo in the Mk3 (the ST220). The Mk4 they did with the inline-5 2.5T and then inline-4 2.0T. Don't know about the 2.0T but the 2.5T will do high 30's on a run... They're pretty rare too.
Anyway, I just wish they'd done a proper ST version of the Mk4 Mondeo, the nearest they got was the aforementioned 2.5T but it would have been nice to have something a bit more special, maybe even an AWD version.
I'd seriously consider a new Mondeo with the (new) Focus RS engine and running gear, the plain 2.0T not so much, it's no quicker than the 2.5T despite more (top end) power, is far slower in the mid-range and only comes as a bloody auto!
Ford did both a 2.0 and a 2.5 V6 Mondeo in 4wd.Anyway, I just wish they'd done a proper ST version of the Mk4 Mondeo, the nearest they got was the aforementioned 2.5T but it would have been nice to have something a bit more special, maybe even an AWD version.
I'd seriously consider a new Mondeo with the (new) Focus RS engine and running gear, the plain 2.0T not so much, it's no quicker than the 2.5T despite more (top end) power, is far slower in the mid-range and only comes as a bloody auto!
The 2.0 was a five door and the 2.5 was a four door saloon if that makes any difference?
LukeR94 said:
Silvia S15 with a RB25, the SR20 thats in it produces around the same power as a RB25. I imagine they didnt want it to compete with the R34 coupe but still.
Probably more down to the RB needing a lot more space and weighing a truckload more. I know aftermarket conversions have been done but its a fairly tight fit and the weight is much further forward.Fastdruid said:
I heard that the RX-8 engine/drivetrain was a semi skunkworks project and developed in the MX-5, I've seen a build of someone who dropped one in and IIRC apart from the torque brace and driveshaft it was just bolt in. - Here we go http://www.rx8club.com/australia-new-zealand-forum... (they also supercharged it and stuff but the initial bit is the dropping in part).
Ah oops they didnt finish it as he blew the renesis up. Did drop in a 20B though 
LukeR94 said:
Silvia S15 with a RB25, the SR20 thats in it produces around the same power as a RB25. I imagine they didnt want it to compete with the R34 coupe but still.
Also a RWD Corolla after the AE86.
IS200 with the 1UZ V8, sort of a M3/ C class AMG alternative, sports saloon type deal.
There was a one off V8 Is200(well it was a is300) that a US timing firm did as a concept I think with the support of Toyota. I think they were kind of like TTE were but in America. I think they used the V8 out of a GS430. There was a program on it a few years back. Also a RWD Corolla after the AE86.
IS200 with the 1UZ V8, sort of a M3/ C class AMG alternative, sports saloon type deal.
fitz1985 said:
I wish they had more petrol engine options available for the current just to be replaced Astra Estate / tourer. Just get the 1.6 N/A here, but the 1.4T would have made an ideal car for me and I'd have probably saved for an extra few months to get one rather than the older model I currently have.
I also wish that Ford / Vauxhall still did V6s that were a more realistic day to day proposition than the Insignia / Vectra VXR, have ford even done one since the MK2 Mondeo? I mean low 30s mpg should be possible from say a 2.5 with 180 BHP or similar should be fairly possible with today's tech. I absolutely know why they don't but it does make me sad I missed out on the affordable performance saloons that were a little bit special IE V6 mk1 Vectras, MK1 / 2 Mondeos, mk1 Laguna...all sorts really.
I also wish more companies did something similar to Dacia, I don't like the styling of those, but like the concept of a simple but reasonably well put together car.
Agree with the V6 point. I'd would have liked some decent grunt without all the unnecessary toys and gadgets and the German badge pushing the price up. I test drove a v6 Cavalier in the 90s and it was a lot of fun. Ended up ordering a V6 Omega as I need the space for 3 young kids.I also wish that Ford / Vauxhall still did V6s that were a more realistic day to day proposition than the Insignia / Vectra VXR, have ford even done one since the MK2 Mondeo? I mean low 30s mpg should be possible from say a 2.5 with 180 BHP or similar should be fairly possible with today's tech. I absolutely know why they don't but it does make me sad I missed out on the affordable performance saloons that were a little bit special IE V6 mk1 Vectras, MK1 / 2 Mondeos, mk1 Laguna...all sorts really.
I also wish more companies did something similar to Dacia, I don't like the styling of those, but like the concept of a simple but reasonably well put together car.
(1) NA straight sixes from BMW. Just give us back the old ones!
(2) M3 Touring.
(3) Manual boxes in powerful Jags and Mercs. Why on Earth would I want a slush box in a F Type or an XE, for example?
(4) The GT4... See - it can happen! Enthusiasts have wanted that car for years and Pork eventually made it.
(5) A V8 for the Mazda 6. Not because I would want one - just because it would fit with the styling.
(6) A Porsche mid-size saloon or estate. SUVs can f
k off!
(2) M3 Touring.
(3) Manual boxes in powerful Jags and Mercs. Why on Earth would I want a slush box in a F Type or an XE, for example?
(4) The GT4... See - it can happen! Enthusiasts have wanted that car for years and Pork eventually made it.
(5) A V8 for the Mazda 6. Not because I would want one - just because it would fit with the styling.
(6) A Porsche mid-size saloon or estate. SUVs can f
k off!Quite a bit of overlap with ORD for me:
1) AMG Mercs with manual gearboxes, or at the very least a double clutch system. A torque converter automatic in an AMG just feels wrong.
2) Jaguar's obsession with automatics. A supposedly British company should respect the usual choice for British car enthusiasts, which is a manual gearbox. The XF has no manual option and the XE only gets a manual for the diesel.
3) Straight six petrol engines in BMWs. I realise it must have been a hard decision cutting the straight sixes from the range, but the straight six defined the company almost as much as the rear drive did. Yes, as many of you know I prioritise the rear drive layout and can't stand the laggy response of the straight sixes, but not for me, for the market in general (and for me the hope that one day that delay will go), ditching the straight sixes was such a sad thing to do.
4) MR2 mk3 - start making it again! Wonderful car and great value. I'd like to see the 190 engine in one, but I realise there may be good reasons for it not making an appearance.
5) Celica GT4
6) A rear drive Alfa to compete with the 3 series, XE and C Class. I think this may be happening now, but it's been far too long coming. Clarkson is wrong - modern Alfas are nicely styled, have oodles of characters and often sound good, but they're dull to drive and offer the true car enthusiast nothing. There are so many people out there who would jump at the chance to own a true Alfa with a sporting pedigree to its handling - it'd sell really well.
7) I wish they'd made a Z4M with the M3 V8 in it and a light weight coupé only version of the more humble model.
8) An affordable driver focused BMW without the fripperies you normally have to put up with on the faster models. No M Sport styling, no low profile tyres, nothing fancy. Like an iPhone 5C
Was this the 320si maybe? I know precious little about them.
9) I know this isn't the right thing to do now, but I'd like to see Lotus produce their own engine range designed for the mid-engined layout. It would make the gearchange better and solve the weight distribution issues that will always haunt the models with transverse 'FWD in reverse' engine layouts. I'm sure this is on their plan if they can make the current range profitable, so I'm happy to watch and wait.
10) A split in the Honda Type-R car range just as they did with their motorbikes. Just to recap for those not into bikes, as bikes became more extreme and more focused on performance, Honda responded by splitting their CBR600 range into a racey version to compete with the R6 et al and a more comfortable version for daily sporting use. Likewise, I'd like to see the Civic Type R come out in a comfort version for everyday use and a hardcore RR version more in the spirit of the Integra Type R.
12) Formula One with more interesting cars and more technical freedom, so perhaps a normally aspirated engine option of any configuration, wider tyres and smaller wings for a different mech/aero balance, wider cars, a complete removal of driver aids and a shake up of how the finances work.
1) AMG Mercs with manual gearboxes, or at the very least a double clutch system. A torque converter automatic in an AMG just feels wrong.
2) Jaguar's obsession with automatics. A supposedly British company should respect the usual choice for British car enthusiasts, which is a manual gearbox. The XF has no manual option and the XE only gets a manual for the diesel.
3) Straight six petrol engines in BMWs. I realise it must have been a hard decision cutting the straight sixes from the range, but the straight six defined the company almost as much as the rear drive did. Yes, as many of you know I prioritise the rear drive layout and can't stand the laggy response of the straight sixes, but not for me, for the market in general (and for me the hope that one day that delay will go), ditching the straight sixes was such a sad thing to do.
4) MR2 mk3 - start making it again! Wonderful car and great value. I'd like to see the 190 engine in one, but I realise there may be good reasons for it not making an appearance.
5) Celica GT4
6) A rear drive Alfa to compete with the 3 series, XE and C Class. I think this may be happening now, but it's been far too long coming. Clarkson is wrong - modern Alfas are nicely styled, have oodles of characters and often sound good, but they're dull to drive and offer the true car enthusiast nothing. There are so many people out there who would jump at the chance to own a true Alfa with a sporting pedigree to its handling - it'd sell really well.
7) I wish they'd made a Z4M with the M3 V8 in it and a light weight coupé only version of the more humble model.
8) An affordable driver focused BMW without the fripperies you normally have to put up with on the faster models. No M Sport styling, no low profile tyres, nothing fancy. Like an iPhone 5C
Was this the 320si maybe? I know precious little about them.9) I know this isn't the right thing to do now, but I'd like to see Lotus produce their own engine range designed for the mid-engined layout. It would make the gearchange better and solve the weight distribution issues that will always haunt the models with transverse 'FWD in reverse' engine layouts. I'm sure this is on their plan if they can make the current range profitable, so I'm happy to watch and wait.
10) A split in the Honda Type-R car range just as they did with their motorbikes. Just to recap for those not into bikes, as bikes became more extreme and more focused on performance, Honda responded by splitting their CBR600 range into a racey version to compete with the R6 et al and a more comfortable version for daily sporting use. Likewise, I'd like to see the Civic Type R come out in a comfort version for everyday use and a hardcore RR version more in the spirit of the Integra Type R.
12) Formula One with more interesting cars and more technical freedom, so perhaps a normally aspirated engine option of any configuration, wider tyres and smaller wings for a different mech/aero balance, wider cars, a complete removal of driver aids and a shake up of how the finances work.
ORD said:
(1) NA straight sixes from BMW. Just give us back the old ones!
(2) M3 Touring.
(3) Manual boxes in powerful Jags and Mercs. Why on Earth would I want a slush box in a F Type or an XE, for example?
(4) The GT4... See - it can happen! Enthusiasts have wanted that car for years and Pork eventually made it.
All of these really, oh plus a picture of my ideal car:(2) M3 Touring.
(3) Manual boxes in powerful Jags and Mercs. Why on Earth would I want a slush box in a F Type or an XE, for example?
(4) The GT4... See - it can happen! Enthusiasts have wanted that car for years and Pork eventually made it.
I'd like some new Porsches. The Panamera, Macan, Cayenne don't interest me in the slightest, so I'd like to see:
A new 914 as an entry model around £30k,
A new 928 with the Pan's V8 to sit as a GT between the Cayman and 911,
A new 'super car', taking the DNA of the 918 and bringing it into a £200-250k car to rival the 488, McLaren etc. I know the Turbo / Turbo S is a weapon but don't think it's 'super' (for lack of a more contextual adjective) enough to compete with the current crop of quarter-mil cars.
A new 914 as an entry model around £30k,
A new 928 with the Pan's V8 to sit as a GT between the Cayman and 911,
A new 'super car', taking the DNA of the 918 and bringing it into a £200-250k car to rival the 488, McLaren etc. I know the Turbo / Turbo S is a weapon but don't think it's 'super' (for lack of a more contextual adjective) enough to compete with the current crop of quarter-mil cars.
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