RE: Ferrari 430 Scuderia: PH Carpool

RE: Ferrari 430 Scuderia: PH Carpool

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Al U

2,312 posts

131 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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schaeffs said:
Al U said:
I'll be driving one of these this weekend. Any tips?
Don't stack it! smile
Whoosh. Guess you missed the thread yesterday smile

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Al U said:
Whoosh. Guess you missed the thread yesterday smile

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Haha got it - as you can probably tell from my post count i'm not on that much...

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Durzel said:
This probably sounds a bit tttish but I don't think it particularly helps that it's sat on unkempt grass, or grass at all for that matter. The contrast between the green and yellow doesn't do it any favours imo.
How very dare you - that's MY unkempt grass!

Durzel

12,252 posts

168 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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smile

mwstewart

7,585 posts

188 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Love the bigger ducktail on these. Do I spy Ti tips?

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Durzel said:
This probably sounds a bit tttish but I don't think it particularly helps that it's sat on unkempt grass, or grass at all for that matter. The contrast between the green and yellow doesn't do it any favours imo.
OK OK - just for you Durz... taken by another mate at his detailing shop! If you want your MR2 to come out looking like a Scud - go there.



NigelCayless

202 posts

155 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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lol. much better picture. Have you cut that grass?

soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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The owner must be a president of the Yellow Is My Favourite Colour club? hehe

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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In no particular order:

Grass now - err kempt...

Ti Capristo - yes

Colour choice - highly personal of course. Let me put it this way - my favourite colour is a certain BMW Midnight Blue. But this isn't a normal car so doesn't deserve a normal colour - all IMO


Durzel

12,252 posts

168 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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That's better biggrin

carl_w

9,171 posts

258 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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schaeffs said:
- Slick know you imported as well. The cost of going through the Ferrari Approved system as well as the costs to import where what I was talking about. Call it an extra £10-15k doing it that way rather than going private... I can give you detailed receipts if you'd like smile
I still don't get it. Why can't you just go to the dealer in Germany or wherever, hand over your hard-earned Euros and drive away? Shouldn't need an SVA as it's EC type approved, just need to pay the registration costs in the UK and get an MOT. No VAT due because it's been used abroad for more than 6 months.

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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carl_w said:
I still don't get it. Why can't you just go to the dealer in Germany or wherever, hand over your hard-earned Euros and drive away? Shouldn't need an SVA as it's EC type approved, just need to pay the registration costs in the UK and get an MOT. No VAT due because it's been used abroad for more than 6 months.
Hi Carl - so to make this as clear as I possibly can - there is one other variable to this as well:

- Cost differential Ferrari main dealer vs private (in Germany at the time we bought the car) approx £9k.
- Costs to find and bring the car back to the UK - including inspection / conversion work needed / registration costs in UK / flights and travel costs - approx £6k.

If you want to buy a LHD car here at a dealer in the UK then factor in the full £15k difference as a minimum to the cost of a private car on the continent or factor a £6k differential dealer to dealer. You could always have the car trailered back to the UK - probably for less cash outlay but where's the fun in that?!

We believe the £9k difference was worth it for the 2 year Ferrari Powertrain warranty, but others may not. As such you can do it for less - but you incur more risk IMO.

Hope this helps - are you thinking of taking the plunge?

carl_w

9,171 posts

258 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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schaeffs said:
Hi Carl - so to make this as clear as I possibly can - there is one other variable to this as well:

- Cost differential Ferrari main dealer vs private (in Germany at the time we bought the car) approx £9k.
- Costs to find and bring the car back to the UK - including inspection / conversion work needed / registration costs in UK / flights and travel costs - approx £6k.

If you want to buy a LHD car here at a dealer in the UK then factor in the full £15k difference as a minimum to the cost of a private car on the continent or factor a £6k differential dealer to dealer. You could always have the car trailered back to the UK - probably for less cash outlay but where's the fun in that?!

We believe the £9k difference was worth it for the 2 year Ferrari Powertrain warranty, but others may not. As such you can do it for less - but you incur more risk IMO.

Hope this helps - are you thinking of taking the plunge?
I'm not thinking of taking the plunge but I have imported cars before. I can see the £9k difference in price, but additional £6k in costs? Did you travel by private jet? What conversion work is needed? Surely the lights should just have a switch to swap the beam over? Can't think of anything else that would need converting.

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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carl_w said:
'm not thinking of taking the plunge but I have imported cars before. I can see the £9k difference in price, but additional £6k in costs? Did you travel by private jet? What conversion work is needed? Surely the lights should just have a switch to swap the beam over? Can't think of anything else that would need converting.
No they don't just have a switch to swap the beam over - I wish they did! You also need to convert the KMH to MPH. and that's just the conversion costs...

j_s14a

863 posts

178 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Probably fighting the f40 for my second favourite Ferrari of all (The top spot is occupied by the 288 smile )

Stunning cars, with a simply incredible soundtrack.

exceed

454 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Car looks great, and even better to see a properly passionate owner.

I'm on the fence about a Speciale that's a LHD model, and this has made me feel a lot better about it!

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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schaeffs said:
No they don't just have a switch to swap the beam over - I wish they did! You also need to convert the KMH to MPH. and that's just the conversion costs...
Hmmmmmm... Unfortunately you we're misinformed. The Scud headlights do indeed have a switch that you can throw to flatten the beam, exactly how mine have been adjusted to pass the mot. Anyone stating otherwise is telling porkies am afraid. The £1400 cost to me was as follows.

- Headlight adjust
- Speedo conversion
- Import through SVA
- First years road tax £260

To clarify the SVA question... You're right the car doesn't need to come in via SVA, however having found self dentistry a more pleasurable pursuit than dealing with DVLA I gave up and went this easy / managed route. A huge bonus being that going via SVA means a much more palatable yearly road tax (no one likes paying taxes do they).

The extra cash spent to import in this article sounds like a finders fee type agreement to reduce the risk and pain. Perfectly understandable as it's a fair chunk of cash you're handing over. However, do your home work (and leg work), fly out and go see the car at least once and if possible buy from a Ferrari main dealer you can drive away a car that comes with 2 year factory cover and the cost of import is circa £1400 - My Car Imports (speak to Jack).


schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
Hmmmmmm... Unfortunately you we're misinformed. The Scud headlights do indeed have a switch that you can throw to flatten the beam, exactly how mine have been adjusted to pass the mot. Anyone stating otherwise is telling porkies am afraid. The £1400 cost to me was as follows.

- Headlight adjust
- Speedo conversion
- Import through SVA
- First years road tax £260

To clarify the SVA question... You're right the car doesn't need to come in via SVA, however having found self dentistry a more pleasurable pursuit than dealing with DVLA I gave up and went this easy / managed route. A huge bonus being that going via SVA means a much more palatable yearly road tax (no one likes paying taxes do they).

The extra cash spent to import in this article sounds like a finders fee type agreement to reduce the risk and pain. Perfectly understandable as it's a fair chunk of cash you're handing over. However, do your home work (and leg work), fly out and go see the car at least once and if possible buy from a Ferrari main dealer you can drive away a car that comes with 2 year factory cover and the cost of import is circa £1400 - My Car Imports (speak to Jack).
Ok - so that part cost us over £2k - so you did better!

On the extra to make up the approx £6k - as above it was the costs to inspect the car, the travel (both ways) and the registration in the UK.

On SVA - if the DVLA don't like your Mutual recognition submission for any reason then you do indeed have to go through this further process. That also adds to the costs incurred.

Essentially what I was trying to say is that these costs do add up quite quickly when you are importing a car across from the continent. It's not as simple as just paying your money and driving the car back across via the Eurotunnel

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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exceed said:
Car looks great, and even better to see a properly passionate owner.

I'm on the fence about a Speciale that's a LHD model, and this has made me feel a lot better about it!
Thanks mate - yes you could call me passionate about cars - love them!

On the Speciale - just do it - you own't regret it for a nano-second. I have a friend who's just taken delivery of a LHD one - can't wait to have a drive in it!!

Cacatous

3,159 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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If you go for another colour, I'd look at this -



Ooh 14 year anniversary on Pistonheads!