RE: BAC Mono 2016MY details

[Baron Greenback]

kambites said:

If I could have any "toy" car for sunny days and track use, I think it would be one of these. Fabulous things.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 7th July 19:46

Totally agreed love to have one with an Arial Nomad also! Glad they have got new digs and upping the production with quality inc! Need to win big on the money front some how!

[RobM77]

Reavenger said:

RobM77 said:

Compromised in aero? I'd not heard that. The only negative that I'm aware of were the early fires they suffered from (famously burning J Plato's neck right in the middle of his BTCC season).

I always assumed that the T1 was simply a promotional exercise for the Basingstoke based company.

From the videos and reviews, it's like an F1 car in that you can't go 90%. You need to be at 100% to use the aero to keep the T1 going in the right direction. Think Clarkson mentioned it. I'll try and dig out the review.

In comparison to the Mono where the aero is more 'flexible'

Clarkson's an idiot - I remember him saying that in his review; he commented that it didn't work at low speed because the aero wasn't there. The reason you have to push an F1 car so hard for it to work is because you need to get temperature into the tyres and brakes, not because you need the aero to generate grip. The Caparo ran on road tyres and there's no reason why it wouldn't handle like a Formula Ford, BAC Mono or similar at low speed, other than the stiffer springs required for the downforce, which admittedly would limit weight transfer and tyre temperature build up a bit, but on road tyres that would be inconsequential, with the stiffer springs just making it a bit more direct and a little unforgiving. I never heard anyone else mention that about the Caparo.

[PunterCam]

Why would anyone buy anything else?

If I was going to spend under £100k on a car, I would have one these in a heartbeat - it's unbeatable in pretty much every area. Sense of occasion, properly exotic materials, so lovely to look at, so rare, the perfect auto box, the perfect engine (I love a good n/a 4 cylinder - it's so anti-snobbish!), handling that will be more fun on the road than pretty much everything else on sale... Sure, an atom or a caterham will be pretty much as fun, but there is still a hint of the kit car (certainly in the caterham, very very slightly in the atom), so having one of them plus, for example, an m3 for day to day wouldn't interest me. I'd have two cars, neither of which is the best.

I would literally have one of these and a 20 year old diesel polo. £100k garage, done.

[RobM77]

(It's a Hewland FTR sequential manual gearbox by the way, not an automatic)

[PorscheGT4]

PunterCam said:

Why would anyone buy anything else?

If I was going to spend under £100k on a car, I would have one these in a heartbeat - it's unbeatable in pretty much every area. Sense of occasion, properly exotic materials, so lovely to look at, so rare, the perfect auto box, the perfect engine (I love a good n/a 4 cylinder - it's so anti-snobbish!), handling that will be more fun on the road than pretty much everything else on sale... Sure, an atom or a caterham will be pretty much as fun, but there is still a hint of the kit car (certainly in the caterham, very very slightly in the atom), so having one of them plus, for example, an m3 for day to day wouldn't interest me. I'd have two cars, neither of which is the best.

I would literally have one of these and a 20 year old diesel polo. £100k garage, done.

but it's £115k :-)

[mikeg15]

I'd like to see how well one would do at Pikes peak. Success there would help sell a few.

[Boshly]

Reavenger said:

As much as 1 a month doesn't sound much, the company only has 60 employees according to Wiki. They won't be making much of a profit on each I'm guessing or much of a turnover but it's a long road.

Profit? 1 a month @ £100k less the vat would barely cover the minimum wage for 60 employees. And that would also presume they got all the parts for free and had no other overheads whatsoever.

Their model must be more than 1 car a month? I would also guess 60 employees is over the top?

[SpudLink]

I agree that this is the car I would choose ahead on anything else currently for sale. However I'm not sure about having just this and a diesel Polo. Using the Mono for the daily grind would make it less of an occasion. It's something I'd only drive for pleasure.

[NDNDNDND]

Why the switch to electronic throttle? Type approval?

[anonymous-user]

RE: ETC. Cost reduction and build simplicity! Not to mention making the transmission integration much easier

[woodsypedia]

I've got an Ariel Atom 3 Supercharged and I'm seriously considering making the switch to one of these, but it's an eye watering amount of money for a weekend toy.

[PunterCam]

PorscheGT4 said:

PunterCam said:

Why would anyone buy anything else?

If I was going to spend under £100k on a car, I would have one these in a heartbeat - it's unbeatable in pretty much every area. Sense of occasion, properly exotic materials, so lovely to look at, so rare, the perfect auto box, the perfect engine (I love a good n/a 4 cylinder - it's so anti-snobbish!), handling that will be more fun on the road than pretty much everything else on sale... Sure, an atom or a caterham will be pretty much as fun, but there is still a hint of the kit car (certainly in the caterham, very very slightly in the atom), so having one of them plus, for example, an m3 for day to day wouldn't interest me. I'd have two cars, neither of which is the best.

I would literally have one of these and a 20 year old diesel polo. £100k garage, done.

but it's £115k :-)

Doesn't really change anything. There's pretty much nothing extra of interest in the 100k-200k window these days anyway..

[kambites]

PorscheGT4 said:

but it's £115k :-)

£74,950+VAT is ~£90k? Or have PH got the price wrong?