RE: The £70K M3 CSL: Spotted

RE: The £70K M3 CSL: Spotted

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Atmospheric

5,305 posts

207 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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cerb4.5lee said:
RichwiththeS2000 said:
Maths says no. This is 10x the price of a standard M3. Is it 10x the car of a standard M3? No.

If you were being cruel you could say the standard M3 is actually better because its offered with a proper gearbox(manual/three pedals).
Especially the CS. That will rocket next.

GregorFuk

563 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Chris Stott said:
Even more silly than the prices of low volume Porsches.

Very nice cars, but not that much different to a stock M3, and no motorsport provenance.

And pay double the price for no AC? Madness rofl
These sound like the words of someone who has never driven one. But I do agree, I'd rather have a fully optioned car. Oh......

g7jhp

6,959 posts

237 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Better to take a standard M3 remove some weight and add CSL parts as required for a fraction of £70k.

cerb4.5lee

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30,197 posts

179 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Chapppers said:
From what I'm hearing / seeing - whilst the super high price ones are taking a while the mid-market is really quite furious at the moment, there have been a few cars sold within a couple of days of late.
I agree and mid market they seem seriously sort after and from reading on here/cutters all the owners/past owners of them have loved them and don't have a bad word to say about them as well.

Guvernator

13,109 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Chris Stott said:
Even more silly than the prices of low volume Porsches.

Very nice cars, but not that much different to a stock M3, and no motorsport provenance.

And pay double the price for no AC? Madness rofl
Agree with most of that except for the bit about it being not much different to a standard M3, yes it looks pretty similar but you'd have to spend about £20k just in parts alone to get all the right bits and you'd still not be 100% as cutting the roof off to replace it with some carbon fibre might be a bit difficult. smile

daytona365

1,773 posts

163 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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If I were in this market I'd just stump up the extra 50k and buy that very nice E30 M3 in the adverts for just 120k. What else is available for only 120k that's even remotely as interesting ?

cerb4.5lee

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30,197 posts

179 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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b14 said:
hot66 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I have always found it fascinating that when they launched the E46 CSL they struggled to sell them but now they are worth a fortune...what a positive turn around, very highly regarded too.
same happened with the Porsche 964 RS
and the McLaren F1.
Back when the McLaren F1 launched I just didn't really get it for some daft reason...now I look at its performance/weight and analogue way of doings things that if I knew then what I know now I would have embraced it with seriously open arms especially now with are in the digital/electric era.

cerb4.5lee

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30,197 posts

179 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Atmospheric said:
cerb4.5lee said:
RichwiththeS2000 said:
Maths says no. This is 10x the price of a standard M3. Is it 10x the car of a standard M3? No.

If you were being cruel you could say the standard M3 is actually better because its offered with a proper gearbox(manual/three pedals).
Especially the CS. That will rocket next.
Yes and the CS is my favourite of the lot just because my preference is a manual gearbox and it takes a few of the great bits from the CSL too.

Roma101

835 posts

146 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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b14 said:
hot66 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I have always found it fascinating that when they launched the E46 CSL they struggled to sell them but now they are worth a fortune...what a positive turn around, very highly regarded too.
same happened with the Porsche 964 RS
and the McLaren F1.
And Megane R26.R

cerb4.5lee

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30,197 posts

179 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Roma101 said:
b14 said:
hot66 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I have always found it fascinating that when they launched the E46 CSL they struggled to sell them but now they are worth a fortune...what a positive turn around, very highly regarded too.
same happened with the Porsche 964 RS
and the McLaren F1.
And Megane R26.R
Yes you would class them all as serious icons now for sure.

masermartin

1,629 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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daytona365 said:
If I were in this market I'd just stump up the extra 50k and buy that very nice E30 M3 in the adverts for just 120k. What else is available for only 120k that's even remotely as interesting ?
"Interesting" is an intangible quality. I'd be scared to do anything to it in case I harm its value, let alone go out and give it a thrash and enjoy it. Not a lot there to interest me I'm afraid.

Unfortunately, all the fun stuff is on the way up. Even that staple of a penny-pinching petrolhead, the cheap V6 Alfa, is no longer as cheap as it was a year or so ago - the last-of-the-Busso GT and GTA variants seem to have started to climb.

NDNDNDND

2,001 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I sometimes wonder how the CSL would have been received, and how it would have appreciated, if it had been equipped with a properly hardcore gearbox, like the dogbox available for the Abarth 695 biposto. That would have been something awesome...

nwates

376 posts

183 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I am on my 2nd CSL a joy to drive , the sound and so rare !


rodericb

6,663 posts

125 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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b14 said:
and the McLaren F1.
And the Z8!

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

117 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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This is just silly.

Small group deluded people propping up the prices of classics and exotica.

If the mill/billionaires stop buying then the market will suddenly turn on its head and it will be a race down to sensible prices.

Leins

9,422 posts

147 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Chris Stott said:
Even more silly than the prices of low volume Porsches.

Very nice cars, but not that much different to a stock M3, and no motorsport provenance.

And pay double the price for no AC? Madness rofl
It's considerably different to a stock M3 though

lockhart flawse

2,040 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I can see why that particular car is worth a lot but I am very surprised that the market may value it at 70k. Very good looking car though - E46 coupe is the best looking 3 series in my opinion.

Never really saw the point about worrying about 35kg because if you put a fat baldy driver weighing 120 kgs in it you lose all the benefit anyway.

Polarbert

17,923 posts

230 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I agree. Not having a stereo would really get on my nerves. I understand the engine sounds glorious, and I'll be purchasing a car with that engine shortly, but a stereo can make all the difference a lot of the time.

Joeguard1990

1,181 posts

125 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I called it ages ago but the Clio V6 is the car to get your hands on if you want something worth money in the future and you can get relatively cheap still today.

tim milne

344 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Odd that it still has the rear seats. You'd think that either BMW or the original owner, if either were that purist about it, would've taken the rear seats out. There's probably another 35kg to be saved.