Respray at home?
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Bought this over the weekend. On the body where it's flaked, it appears to be white, with maybe a green/blue and now this red colour. Horrible work.
Really like the look of the new Range Rover firenze red colour.
How hard is it to spray it up at home?
Can you even buy Land Rover colours? This is all I could find but its in the states.
http://www.amazon.com/Land-Rover-Evoque-Firenze-Pe...
Obviously it wont be perfect but its a D reg Defender so who cares?
Got a 50l compressor, spray gun and a large garage which I can seal up for 2 days to spray. Don't mind sanding it down myself, have done it before on a friends defender who we hand painted with rollers. Not the best finish but he didn't care, had multiple colours before from changing panels.
Posted in the land rover section earlier but didn't get many reply's.
It's perfectly doable.
Prep is probably 99% of the finished result. Spraying is really air hungry, your compressor may well be a limiting factor. Safety considerations as well if you are spraying indoors (masks etc)
I did a half respray on my 1st car at home on the driveway about 15 years ago. At the time we had a big old home built compressor made from 2 lorry air tanks and a massive pump which happily ran a spray gun. I spent bloody weeks flattening and wet sanding the cellulose paint as there was plenty of contamination from doing it outdoors.
Buy and old scrap panel and play about, time well spent if you've never sprayed before. Youtube vids are good too these days.
Prep is probably 99% of the finished result. Spraying is really air hungry, your compressor may well be a limiting factor. Safety considerations as well if you are spraying indoors (masks etc)
I did a half respray on my 1st car at home on the driveway about 15 years ago. At the time we had a big old home built compressor made from 2 lorry air tanks and a massive pump which happily ran a spray gun. I spent bloody weeks flattening and wet sanding the cellulose paint as there was plenty of contamination from doing it outdoors.
Buy and old scrap panel and play about, time well spent if you've never sprayed before. Youtube vids are good too these days.
you can get any paint for almost any car, you just need the paint code
To get an oem like finnish is a lot of work and virtually impossible at home, but to get a far better finish than that is possible if you put the effort in to doing it right, but i think you might need to get some practice
To get an oem like finnish is a lot of work and virtually impossible at home, but to get a far better finish than that is possible if you put the effort in to doing it right, but i think you might need to get some practice
https://www.paints4u.com/AutoColours.aspx?ProductI...
Pay full attention to the H&S procedures and requirements when painting with modern paints.
Pay full attention to the H&S procedures and requirements when painting with modern paints.
A friend of mine, who was a professional paint sprayer, did a Vitesse 6 for me years ago On my driveway, using a Burgess electric spray gun.
As has been said, preparation is everything!
We flatted down, filled and primed, then flatted down again. He used a very large number of top coats until there was a very substantial coating of orange peely paint. (Ever used an early electric spray gun?)
After letting the paint harden for 2 weeks we attacked it with 1200 grade wet and dry with soap and water. At first the finish was matt with ever reducing gloss dots. When it was matt all over we then cut it back using a rubbing compound. This resulted in a dull, but very smooth, finish. We finished off with a very fine version of 'T' cut.
Very labour intensive, comparatively cheap and an amazing mirror-like finish!
Good luck!
As has been said, preparation is everything!
We flatted down, filled and primed, then flatted down again. He used a very large number of top coats until there was a very substantial coating of orange peely paint. (Ever used an early electric spray gun?)
After letting the paint harden for 2 weeks we attacked it with 1200 grade wet and dry with soap and water. At first the finish was matt with ever reducing gloss dots. When it was matt all over we then cut it back using a rubbing compound. This resulted in a dull, but very smooth, finish. We finished off with a very fine version of 'T' cut.
Very labour intensive, comparatively cheap and an amazing mirror-like finish!
Good luck!
I've sprayed a Land Rover before and did a more or less bare metal job. That meant using an etching primer on the bare aluminium body panels and I later found out that a very useful H&S info sticker SHOULD have been on the containers.
After just a few minutes work I felt a bit ill; shortly after that I had to stop, exit the garage and throw up. The rather worrying wheezing went away after a couple of hours.
I should have been wearing an air fed mask but had one for normal spray painting. The supply to an air fed mask would need the proper filters etc to make sure you aren't breathing everything the compressor supplies in addition to the air.
Subsequently I've painted Land Rovers with a 4" foam roller and got reasonable results - it came out like a spray job with some orange peel effect.
About 10 years ago I painted my Discovery by the same method with even better results; many people just do not believe me when I tell them it's a roller job.
After just a few minutes work I felt a bit ill; shortly after that I had to stop, exit the garage and throw up. The rather worrying wheezing went away after a couple of hours.
I should have been wearing an air fed mask but had one for normal spray painting. The supply to an air fed mask would need the proper filters etc to make sure you aren't breathing everything the compressor supplies in addition to the air.
Subsequently I've painted Land Rovers with a 4" foam roller and got reasonable results - it came out like a spray job with some orange peel effect.
About 10 years ago I painted my Discovery by the same method with even better results; many people just do not believe me when I tell them it's a roller job.
The colour in your link - Firenze red - is a Land Rover colour.
The link shows its code, which is 868.
You should be able to get the base coat - which is the colour coat - from any motor factor that does paint. It's a pearlescent/xirillic colour so must be sprayed. Metallics also need to be sprayed.
It must have clearcoat (lacquer) over the top of the basecoat & clearcoat is normally applied as two full coats.
Heed the advice re application of 2k materials - in this case it will be the clearcoat - but you also need protection when applying the basecoat as you don't want you lungs a nice metallic red.
Have a look here, but bear in mind it isn't up to date as far as colours are concerned: http://coachpainting.info/traditional.html
The link shows its code, which is 868.
You should be able to get the base coat - which is the colour coat - from any motor factor that does paint. It's a pearlescent/xirillic colour so must be sprayed. Metallics also need to be sprayed.
It must have clearcoat (lacquer) over the top of the basecoat & clearcoat is normally applied as two full coats.
Heed the advice re application of 2k materials - in this case it will be the clearcoat - but you also need protection when applying the basecoat as you don't want you lungs a nice metallic red.
Have a look here, but bear in mind it isn't up to date as far as colours are concerned: http://coachpainting.info/traditional.html
Edited by paintman on Wednesday 8th July 08:52
I sprayed a couple of doors on a Morris Marina after a scrape many years ago using a spray can on a windy day in my garage with the shutter door shut to keep the dust out.
I had finished and was quite pleased with the result, and was climbing out of the back window to keep the wind and dust out, just as my wife rolled up the shutter door to see how I was getting on.
It made Ed China's spray can job on a hot day on that Ford Capri look concours.
So my advice would be to lock your other half in the closet while you do it.
She is now my long term ex wife.
I had finished and was quite pleased with the result, and was climbing out of the back window to keep the wind and dust out, just as my wife rolled up the shutter door to see how I was getting on.
It made Ed China's spray can job on a hot day on that Ford Capri look concours.
So my advice would be to lock your other half in the closet while you do it.
She is now my long term ex wife.
Edited by Monkeylegend on Wednesday 8th July 08:37
You might find this of interest. Bear in mind this is for solid colours only. won't work with metallics/pearls.
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/how-hand-paint-l...
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/how-hand-paint-l...
Pistom said:
Why would you want to paint at home?
That really is a pretty sad question.Why repair your own car rather than take it to a garage, why paint your living room instead of hiring a decorator, in fact why do anything yourself if you could pay someone else to do it?
If you have minimal practical skills, no spare time or facilities and plenty of money you might have an excuse, but understand that other people actually enjoy working on their own car, and gain a lot of satisfaction from getting a good job done at a fraction of the cost.
ging84 said:
To get an oem like finnish is a lot of work and virtually impossible at home,
Not true, OEM finishes can be pretty terrible since manufacturers can't afford to put much time into post-spraying correction and their hands are tied in terms of paint systems they are either permitted to use, or can budget for. If you can put the time into preparing the panels and you have some idea how to use a spray gun, then you can achieve an excellent finish in a garage.In this case we are talking about a Land Rover, so a blind man rubbing a paint sodden cat over the panels could match the factory paint finish.
Edited by Mr2Mike on Wednesday 8th July 09:21
lord trumpton said:
With an old landy like that than painting it in anything other than the OE colour would be sacrilege IMO
Aren't these old boys a bit of a collectors car these days? Needs to be saved not finished off imho
It's a battered D90, ffs... not an 80" s1!Aren't these old boys a bit of a collectors car these days? Needs to be saved not finished off imho
Just make sure to empty the sheepdogs out of the back first.
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