RE: Volkswagen Phaeton: Guilty Pleasures
Discussion
BIRMA said:
. When you turn on the ignition the rather nice wooden trims should disappear without problem if any stay down press the A/C button on the lower row of buttons and you will see a diagram of the air circulation on the display press the buttons to the side and they should open/operate.
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I meant to ask on the Phaeton forum about this but you saved me the trip.[]
When I bought the car and it was a little cooler those trims stayed down more or less permanently.
Now it is warmer they are open most of the time, even when the car is to temperature. Is that normal?
Matt Bird said:
V8 FOU said:
Ermmm... Not driven one....... Consult What Car?
Who wrote this? Phil Space, on a quiet Weds afternoon?
Phaeton is hardly the most PH of cars, PH is the only job in this industry I've had and so I've not driven one. You can still like something having not experienced it, right? Most of the reasons for enjoying it aren't related to the drive so points still stand. Many people go ahead and buy cars doing less research than went into this story!Who wrote this? Phil Space, on a quiet Weds afternoon?
Matt
blindswelledrat said:
BIRMA said:
. When you turn on the ignition the rather nice wooden trims should disappear without problem if any stay down press the A/C button on the lower row of buttons and you will see a diagram of the air circulation on the display press the buttons to the side and they should open/operate.
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I meant to ask on the Phaeton forum about this but you saved me the trip.[]
When I bought the car and it was a little cooler those trims stayed down more or less permanently.
Now it is warmer they are open most of the time, even when the car is to temperature. Is that normal?
The air con system has so many variables I have mine set on manual. First press the AC button (the 12 buttons below the screen) and get the AC screen when you press the buttons on the side of the display that are near the up arrow and side arrow, if you have it on auto it will blow high on a hot day (you can turn auto off by pressing one of the two buttons on the 8 buttons above the display screen) if you have the side button pressed on both sides where the horizontal arrow is on the display provided it needs cooling or heating all of the wooden covers should be raised. In the winter you can adjust the central vent to blow cooler air to keep you alert on a long journey. Just make sure its not set on econ as this turns off the ac system.
Also remember the perfectionist who designed this car regardless of cost didn't want air blowing on his face so the air-con is designed in a way that it works on adjusting the cabin temperature with the least amount of intrusion from the heating/cooling system.
It may be the case that you will have to go back into settings and set your key to your preferred settings this includes the steering wheel/seats and rear view mirror plus the air-con you can also control arrival and departure lighting too.
Hope that helps, as you say the Vortex forum has a lot of people who know a lot more about these cars than me.
Edited by BIRMA on Wednesday 26th August 09:31
GOod stuff. I will explore that. Thank you.
Two more related questions as you have obviously explored this thoroughly.
1) On the door by the window there is an a/c vent that has it's own button which turns yellow when pressed. What does that do?
2)You know how each vent has it's own button immediately beneath it which has a light that moves left and right? Well I know what that does but there is an identical button in the centre of the dash with a red dot on one end and a blue on the other. When you press it the light beneath it moves along but changes from red to blue once it goes past the middle. I love this button but haven't got the faintest idea what it does?
As an aside, I recently got this regassed and the bloke who did it said that the a/c was the coldest he had seen
Two more related questions as you have obviously explored this thoroughly.
1) On the door by the window there is an a/c vent that has it's own button which turns yellow when pressed. What does that do?
2)You know how each vent has it's own button immediately beneath it which has a light that moves left and right? Well I know what that does but there is an identical button in the centre of the dash with a red dot on one end and a blue on the other. When you press it the light beneath it moves along but changes from red to blue once it goes past the middle. I love this button but haven't got the faintest idea what it does?
As an aside, I recently got this regassed and the bloke who did it said that the a/c was the coldest he had seen
blindswelledrat said:
GOod stuff. I will explore that. Thank you.
Two more related questions as you have obviously explored this thoroughly.
1) On the door by the window there is an a/c vent that has it's own button which turns yellow when pressed. What does that do?
2)You know how each vent has it's own button immediately beneath it which has a light that moves left and right? Well I know what that does but there is an identical button in the centre of the dash with a red dot on one end and a blue on the other. When you press it the light beneath it moves along but changes from red to blue once it goes past the middle. I love this button but haven't got the faintest idea what it does?
As an aside, I recently got this regassed and the bloke who did it said that the a/c was the coldest he had seen
No problem, Two more related questions as you have obviously explored this thoroughly.
1) On the door by the window there is an a/c vent that has it's own button which turns yellow when pressed. What does that do?
2)You know how each vent has it's own button immediately beneath it which has a light that moves left and right? Well I know what that does but there is an identical button in the centre of the dash with a red dot on one end and a blue on the other. When you press it the light beneath it moves along but changes from red to blue once it goes past the middle. I love this button but haven't got the faintest idea what it does?
As an aside, I recently got this regassed and the bloke who did it said that the a/c was the coldest he had seen
1 As far as I know when pressed and yellow it stops vented air clearing the side window.
2 Thats the central button I mentioned, what it does is in the middle it gives out ambient air if you press it to blue it lowers the temperature to keep you awake on a long journey if you want slightly warmer air go to red its very subtle but a nice little tweak to the elaborate air-con system.
Properly working i.e. fully gassed up the air-con system in this car is really effective on a typical journey my wife in the passenger seat likes it hot, my daughter in the back likes it cold then hot then cold then hot, meanwhile I keep it at a constant cool and remain blissfully unaware of the multitude of temperatures my passengers seem to want which up until the purchase of the Phaeton made every journey a bloody misery.
Thread resurrection!
The V6 powered petrols are well and truly into bargain barge territory.
Does anyone have any experience running one of these?
I quite fancy the understated look of these and i'm looking into a quiet comfortable highway muncher.
Any tips on pre-purchase inspections for the tiny V6?
The V6 powered petrols are well and truly into bargain barge territory.
Does anyone have any experience running one of these?
I quite fancy the understated look of these and i'm looking into a quiet comfortable highway muncher.
Any tips on pre-purchase inspections for the tiny V6?
Lungwun said:
Thread resurrection!
The V6 powered petrols are well and truly into bargain barge territory.
Does anyone have any experience running one of these?
I quite fancy the understated look of these and i'm looking into a quiet comfortable highway muncher.
Any tips on pre-purchase inspections for the tiny V6?
There is only a V8 petrol, the V6 is a diesel as far as I know, I'm sure there was never a V6 petrol.The V6 powered petrols are well and truly into bargain barge territory.
Does anyone have any experience running one of these?
I quite fancy the understated look of these and i'm looking into a quiet comfortable highway muncher.
Any tips on pre-purchase inspections for the tiny V6?
I've never owned one or driven one, but I've spent a fair amount of time in the back of one as I had a driver allocated to me on a project in the North East for many months. He used to have a Merc S320 diesel before he bought a used Phaeton.
The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
TazLondon said:
I've never owned one or driven one, but I've spent a fair amount of time in the back of one as I had a driver allocated to me on a project in the North East for many months. He used to have a Merc S320 diesel before he bought a used Phaeton.
The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
That's not too encouraging is it?The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
The Merc S320, was it the W220 or W221 variant of S class?
The W220 looks proper dated now in my opinion. I think the Phaeton looks a lot better than that.
Lungwun said:
BIRMA said:
There is only a V8 petrol, the V6 is a diesel as far as I know, I'm sure there was never a V6 petrol.
There is/was a Phaeton with the 3.2 VAG petrol available in Germany. not too sure if it was available in the UKblindswelledrat said:
Lungwun said:
BIRMA said:
There is only a V8 petrol, the V6 is a diesel as far as I know, I'm sure there was never a V6 petrol.
There is/was a Phaeton with the 3.2 VAG petrol available in Germany. not too sure if it was available in the UKLungwun said:
TazLondon said:
I've never owned one or driven one, but I've spent a fair amount of time in the back of one as I had a driver allocated to me on a project in the North East for many months. He used to have a Merc S320 diesel before he bought a used Phaeton.
The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
That's not too encouraging is it?The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
The Merc S320, was it the W220 or W221 variant of S class?
The W220 looks proper dated now in my opinion. I think the Phaeton looks a lot better than that.
I possibly have the two most awkward passengers in my wife and daughter and they have never complained to date, much to my relief.
BIRMA said:
You should see the back seats in my 4 seater LWB model, heated and cooled seats that also hove massage function and individual air-con controls.
I possibly have the two most awkward passengers in my wife and daughter and they have never complained to date, much to my relief.
Birma, What's it like running this car without a warranty? I possibly have the two most awkward passengers in my wife and daughter and they have never complained to date, much to my relief.
Potential ruinous bills?
I know about the TPMS sensors, the suspension issues which I learnt you have to change all 4 at once on earlier models?
I'm hoping the 3.2 will be a little easier on the wallet for running costs and general wear and tear of engine parts.
TazLondon said:
I've never owned one or driven one, but I've spent a fair amount of time in the back of one as I had a driver allocated to me on a project in the North East for many months. He used to have a Merc S320 diesel before he bought a used Phaeton.
The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
I can only agree with this. The Phaeton isn't half as remarkable as some try to make out.The Phaeton always looked like a Passat when he came to pick me up. The Merc always made you feel special as it drew up outside the hotel, and it also had a ride quality that was just in a different league to that of the Phaeton.
The seats of the Phaeton were acceptable but that's it. I've been in an Audi A8 / S8 and the interior of the Audi and that of the Merc is a step up from the Pheaton.
There's no doubting the value for money of a used Phaeton. It just wasn't special enough for me. Think Skoda Octavia vs Skoda Superb and you'll get and idea of VW Passat vs Phaeton, although to be fair the step up from the Passat is much larger.
A good car but nothing special and I can't imagine considering one compared to a 7-Series, S-Class or XJ.
That said, I'd like one with a decent engine. I would simply like some of the competition more
Lungwun said:
BIRMA said:
You should see the back seats in my 4 seater LWB model, heated and cooled seats that also hove massage function and individual air-con controls.
I possibly have the two most awkward passengers in my wife and daughter and they have never complained to date, much to my relief.
Birma, What's it like running this car without a warranty? I possibly have the two most awkward passengers in my wife and daughter and they have never complained to date, much to my relief.
Potential ruinous bills?
I know about the TPMS sensors, the suspension issues which I learnt you have to change all 4 at once on earlier models?
I'm hoping the 3.2 will be a little easier on the wallet for running costs and general wear and tear of engine parts.
Having now run it for 2 plus years the only thing that has gone wrong were the PAS pipes which thanks to a good independent cost me £500.
Over time I have grown to really like the car, you can leave it parked anywhere, it makes a 400 mile round trip seem like a pop to the shops.
Every time I get in it I say 'hello old friend' in two or three years time I won't need it for the taxi run so I'll either replace it with a W12 or a 2013 Nissan GT-R.
In conclusion they are a gamble, don't buy one if you have a very tight budget unless you are handy with tools but I think a lot of things that can go wrong can potentially be ruinous.
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