RE: BMW 340i :Driven
Discussion
RobM77 said:
Fast Bug said:
The difference in illumination times works out at stopping a car length quicker at 60mph
That's a pretty good fact - I like that 
Do you have the working or a source?60mph is 26.8 meters per second. A typical car is 5m long, so that equates to a 180ms time difference in the following driver noticing the car ahead stopping, if we assume the LED lamps illuminate effectively instantaneously.
Unfortunately, our eyes are not instantaneous (hence we can watch telly at 50 individual frames per second and see it as "continuous").
By the time you've factored in various factors such as the fact incandesence bulbs can be seen BEFORE they reach full brightness, i'd be amazed if you could realistically see any improvement in reaction time in the real world!
RobM77 said:
Fast Bug said:
The difference in illumination times works out at stopping a car length quicker at 60mph
That's a pretty good fact - I like that Do you have the working or a source?From memory (so don't quote me!), LED's light up 0.6 or 0.8 of a second quicker than a standard bulb. So from there you should be able to work out how much distance a car travelling at 60mph will cover in feet. I can't be arsed to work it out as it's a Friday afternoon
T1berious][Pedant said:
Wasn't the E46 M3 338 bhp?
[/Pedant]
BMW ad tags lines of old:
"Ultimate Driving Machine"
"Power is nothing without control"
Current BMW tag line:
"Er but the engines a peach!"
Really? Via an optional extra (hopefully) you can mangle the steering?
Say, it ain't so....
Hmmmmm. [/Pedant]
BMW ad tags lines of old:
"Ultimate Driving Machine"
"Power is nothing without control"
Current BMW tag line:
"Er but the engines a peach!"
Really? Via an optional extra (hopefully) you can mangle the steering?
Say, it ain't so....
https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/index.html
Looking at the top right, the Ultimate Driving Machine branding still seems present and correct. Or you can have "Sheer Driving Pleasure" which is a bit more accurate.
Oh, and Power is Nothing without Control was Pirelli.
Apart from that, fully agree
IanJ9375 said:
Pretty much the advice I got when speccing the pre-LCI 330D - avoid the Variable Steering Option!
The M-Sport+ version of this with the brake upgrade will be a decent drive, ignore the numbering conventions they've been wrong since @1990 on the 3 Series and you can always pull the badge off and keep it in the man drawer lol
That's good advice. It really is terrible. The M-Sport+ version of this with the brake upgrade will be a decent drive, ignore the numbering conventions they've been wrong since @1990 on the 3 Series and you can always pull the badge off and keep it in the man drawer lol
BMW really have the worse looking dashes in the industry at the moment. Couple that with a yawny exterior, and I'll be passing on by. Good luck if you buy one. Hardly inspirational.
ETA: Just looked at the Jag XE figures for the 3.0 litre petrol supercharged. Makes the Beemer look a bit tardy, and that engine in the Jag has been around for a while.
ETA: Just looked at the Jag XE figures for the 3.0 litre petrol supercharged. Makes the Beemer look a bit tardy, and that engine in the Jag has been around for a while.
Edited by fatboy b on Friday 17th July 16:55
kambites said:
Max_Torque said:
It's also worth noting that all modern cars use the same components underneath, and are of course "built down to a price"! For example, BMW could replace the (cheap, fast to assemble, and rattle free) plastic door card clips, parts that 99.99999999% of owners never see or need to even notice, with some "over engineered" bolted fixings (which would cost 100 as much, take 100x longer to assemble, and almost certainly come loose and rattle at some point), but if they did that for all the "under engineered" parts, this car would cost >£60k!
I didn't claim that over-engineering was necessarily a good thing; just that they aren't doing it. Of course modern cars have got objectively better, no-one is denying that. However, that's not the same thing as saying that the quality of engineering has improved. I think the focus has shifted away from engineering quality towards engineering quantity, if that makes sense - cars sell on the basis of how many shiny features they have compared to the competition; manufacturers have realised that no-one gives a damn if those shiny features are still working and/or useful in 10 years time.
Edited by kambites on Friday 17th July 11:23
It's only in BMWs interest to have the components last just past the terms of the warranty.
MrBig said:
Apparently I'm in the minority but I find the 340i badge rather alluring for some reason. I'm expecting this to do well in countries not obsessed with DERV's; USA, China, Russia, India etc..
You're not - I think it's rather cool having 340i nomenclature on the back. It's the modern way - and the knowledge it signifies 326hp is a good way of overcoming resistance...Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff