RE: Tesla 'Ludicrous Mode' introduced

RE: Tesla 'Ludicrous Mode' introduced

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bodhi

10,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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alangla said:
Speaking of the Nurburgring - are there lap times available for either the Tesla or the Mugen electric bike John McGuiness used in this year's TTZero?

Given the Mugen can do a full lap of the Snaefell course with minimal power saving, it should be able to get round the Nurburgring at full output.
Not for the Tesla, as it broke about a quarter of the way round.

kambites

67,654 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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bodhi said:
Whereas Hydrogen might well require new infrastructure, it does come with the massive bonus of pretty much unlimited supply - which neither EVs nor ICE based vehicles can boast.
confused From where?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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kambites said:
bodhi said:
Whereas Hydrogen might well require new infrastructure, it does come with the massive bonus of pretty much unlimited supply - which neither EVs nor ICE based vehicles can boast.
confused From where?
The hydrogen well, you 'tard...

wemorgan

3,578 posts

179 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
The hydrogen well, you 'tard...
please point us in the direction of all those free hydrogen mines you think exists

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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wemorgan said:
mybrainhurts said:
The hydrogen well, you 'tard...
please point us in the direction of all those free hydrogen mines you think exists
Over there ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

Then left at the traffic lights.

kambites

67,654 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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hehe

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Let's hear it accelerate through a tunnel!

The electric vehicle is going to be amazing when it goes populist. It'll be perfect for the majority of people, most of the time. And imagine your maintenance regimen!

Most manufacturers are considering EVs and other non-traditional powerplants, vehicles and systems.

But imagine a world where an unexpected brand gets into the game.

beer

kambites

67,654 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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unsprung said:
Let's hear it accelerate through a tunnel!
I'm sure they can borrow tech from Porsche to play a nice "flat-6 in a tunnel" engine note through the speakers. hehe

gangzoom

6,341 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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All this 'debate' is pretty pointless. If you look into how solar panel technology is getting cheaper and better, that couple along with cheaper battery technology is going to change power generation in a massive way. This change is going to driven by encomics. Electricity generated from solar/wind system is 'free' since the Sun comes up everyday, even on a cold wet island like the UK. So if you can access 'free' electricity why on earth waste energy extracting if from carbon sources buried under ground, or waste energy producing compressed pure hydrogen.

Hydrogen as a fuel sources is very powerful, but we are unlikely to ever control it, but than again we don't need to....Becuse the Sun, which is a giant hydrogen fuelled nuclear fusion power station already exists. We just need to learn how to capture the energery it generates - and we are getting there. Not bad for a species that shares 50% of DNA content with a Banana smile

Edited by gangzoom on Tuesday 21st July 14:27

kambites

67,654 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Hydrogen isn't a fuel at all - there isn't much H2 just lying around; it's a very inefficient but convenient means of energy storage.

bodhi

10,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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kambites said:
confused From where?
Dihydrogen Monoxide?

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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kambites said:
unsprung said:
Let's hear it accelerate through a tunnel!
I'm sure they can borrow tech from Porsche to play a nice "flat-6 in a tunnel" engine note through the speakers. hehe
They could allow us to dial it in! Smart little knob on the centre console: rotate to select anything from a Rolls-Royce Merlin V12 to a lawn mower! laugh

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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unsprung said:
Let's hear it accelerate through a tunnel!

The electric vehicle is going to be amazing when it goes populist. It'll be perfect for the majority of people, most of the time. And imagine your maintenance regimen!

Most manufacturers are considering EVs and other non-traditional powerplants, vehicles and systems.

But imagine a world where an unexpected brand gets into the game.

beer
As usual Apple will wait until everyone else has done the hard work and then release their own idiot proof version which nearly all Apple users will think is the first one ever. wink

kambites

67,654 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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bodhi said:
kambites said:
confused From where?
Dihydrogen Monoxide?
And where are you getting the energy from to split you dihydrogen monoxide?

You know, that minor "three times the amount of energy you later get out from burning it" that's required to split it in the first place? It's like saying electricity is clearly unlimited because you can charge the same battery multiple times. That's all hydrogen actually is - a massively inefficient liquid battery.

Or have you invented a perpetual motion machine and not told any of us? hehe

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st July 16:08

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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2.8 to 62mph
7.0 to 100mph
10.8 1/4 mile

Staggering for a 7 seater >> 2tonne family sedan.

Noise or lack of aural pleasure annoying.

Frankly there are very very few cars which could pass this car on the public highway.

I wonder if the P120D "mental institution" or "Straight jacket" will be out before the end of next year.





bodhi

10,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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kambites said:
And where are you getting the energy from to split you dihydrogen monoxide?

You know, that minor "three times the amount of energy you later get out from burning it" that's required to split it in the first place? It's like saying electricity is clearly unlimited because you can charge the same battery multiple times. That's all hydrogen actually is - a massively inefficient liquid battery.

Or have you invented a perpetual motion machine and not told any of us? hehe

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st July 16:08
Well the Greenpeace approved method would involve wind and solar power, but as both of them are fairly useless I'd suggest some sort of nuclear power station? Of course the crusties don't like that much either, so I suspect we'd end up using Coal and Gas smile

Shaoxter

4,092 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Noise or lack of aural pleasure annoying.
Considering the number of diesels which everyone seems to be buying, I'd say noise is down the list of many people's priorities. A fake V8/10/12 noise through the speakers would be awesome though. Unlike some new cars which have been getting stick for this, nobody would complain about that because everyone would know it's fake to begin with smile

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Can they also engineer in a nice lumpy idle feeling when selecting V8 mode please?

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Will Saudi Arabia and there buddy's not want to nuke us from planet earth when battery power finally takes off
As they won't be able to buy Swarovski crystals anymore, or anything else for that matter

ikarl

3,733 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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bodhi said:
Can't say I share your excitement - whilst the Tesla may be quick off the line it drops off quite a lot after about 60, at which point a car with a proper drivetrain is just getting going - there are plenty of YouTube vids out there of Teslas beating ICE cars off the line, then get passed as if they are standing still.

Proper cars can do more than a minute and a half round the Nurburgring before dropping into limp home mode too. .
But for quite a lot of people, probably the majority, they would never need that car that would go cruising past once the Teslas at 70/80mph. Very few people take their car on the track, or need to do 200 miles per day.

I genuinely don't understand that kind of bashing for these cars. For the majority of people they're much, much more than adequate.