Golf GTI or GTD? Which one would you have?

Golf GTI or GTD? Which one would you have?

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AC43

11,488 posts

208 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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andrewparker said:
AC43 said:
andrewparker said:
We're talking about modern diesel cars, not an old van.

I'll say it again, I've never once experienced any smell from my car. The DPF removes any soot from the exhaust gases, so much so that I've only cleaned the exhaust tips once in 16 months and they're still sparkling.
I think we just have to agree to disagree. I had nearly new Merc E Class 250 CDI on loan for a few weeks last year. It stank when I fired it up. If I left the front door of the house open and there was a north wind it would make the house stink too.

I don't have that problem with either of my petrols.

Anyway, maybe yours is better, which is of course a good thing.

EDIT; perhaps the reason that the Merc chucked out the soot when I fired it up it that I was using in stop start London traffic, something for which it is patently not designed.

Edited by AC43 on Saturday 1st August 10:43
Yeah, you might be right. A close friend has an E250 CDI Coupe and likewise, I've never thought it smelled.

I don't want to come across all defensive of diesel cars, this is actually the first I've had and I'll be choosing a petrol hot hatch next, purely because I think they make a more enjoyable performance car. I just feel that some of the criticism levelled at them is unjustified. I tried one and happen to think the GTD is a very complete car (possibly more so than the GTIs I have owned).
Fair do's. And if and when I replace my current E Class I'd consider a diesel as it's mainly a mile muncher. I'd keep a petrol city car though. Horses for courses.

tomjol

532 posts

117 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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andrewparker said:
St John Smythe said:
andrewparker said:
We're talking about modern diesel cars, not an old van.

I'll say it again, I've never once experienced any smell from my car. The DPF removes any soot from the exhaust gases, so much so that I've only cleaned the exhaust tips once in 16 months and they're still sparkling.
As already said, try coming into London for a day. They stink. Good job they'll be banned soon. smile
Yeah, I'll try saying it again, an old diesel car will stink, a modern DPF'd car won't. Why is that so hard to understand?
If the DPF is still fitted...there are loads of recent diesel cars around with huge black clouds billowing out every time the driver puts their foot down.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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All that jazz said:
andrewparker said:
St John Smythe said:
Good job they'll be banned soon. smile
By the way, I think you're incredibly naive if you think that will actually happen!
£12.50 per day to enter London ULEZ from 2020 with <Euro 6 engine. It's on TFL site. Given how quick they banned Euro 4 trucks from the LEZ I wouldn't be at all surprised if they bring the ULEZ dates forward to satisfy the tree-huggers.
Think Andrew is the naive one here tbh smile

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Every post I've made has had the words "modern diesel car", so it's safe to assume I'm talking about cars that meet Euro 6 regulations for emissions. They won't be banned.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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andrewparker said:
Every post I've made has had the words "modern diesel car", so it's safe to assume I'm talking about cars that meet Euro 6 regulations for emissions. They won't be banned.
Trust me, they will.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Trust me, they will.
They might be banned from european city centres but I don't believe diesel cars will be banned from use anytime soon.

On the other hand new taxes that render new diesel cars uneconomic to produce, that I could see.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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lol, whatever

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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EricE said:
St John Smythe said:
Trust me, they will.
They might be banned from european city centres but I don't believe diesel cars will be banned from use anytime soon.

On the other hand new taxes that render new diesel cars uneconomic to produce, that I could see.
Exactly. I'm talking about London not the rest of the country.

coppice

8,612 posts

144 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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For all those sensitive souls who are convinced that every street reeks of diesel and it's all so unfair can I suggest a time machine back to the mid 60s? Massive amount of diesel smoke from lorries, petrol smells everywhere and smog you could carve . When I were a lad.... (continues on page 87)

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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coppice said:
For all those sensitive souls who are convinced that every street reeks of diesel and it's all so unfair can I suggest a time machine back to the mid 60s? Massive amount of diesel smoke from lorries, petrol smells everywhere and smog you could carve . When I were a lad.... (continues on page 87)
I thought that was caused by coal powered factories and home coal fires? Totally different to today.

coppice

8,612 posts

144 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Possibly - but bloody everything was filthy and smelly back then. We still have coal powered power of course but I haven't seen smog for decades. I did read somewhere that a 2015 Fiesta emits about a fiftieth of the emissions the original 1976 one did. But anybody who really thinks that diesel cars smell on the inside must have dog like senses of smell . Wonder if they smell petrol too ? Must be terrible for them on public transport (whatever that is )having to tolerate other people's bodily effluvia ...

tomjol

532 posts

117 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Who let Grandad out of the home?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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tomjol said:
Who let Grandad out of the home?
Come on, give him a break. I'm amazed he's figured out a) how to use a computer and b) how to connect to the internet. smile