Road rage; is it getting worse?
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I'm finding that lots of people are LOOKING for TROUBLE on the roads, why the F$£K do you need to flash your lights at me for overtaking you in a perfectly legal place? Just why? I give people plenty of space too?
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
IntriguedUser said:
I'm finding that lots of people are LOOKING for TROUBLE on the roads, why the F$£K do you need to flash your lights at me for overtaking you in a perfectly legal place? Just why? I give people plenty of space too?
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
It's society man. It seems like people are so pent-up and stressed that they just seek confrontation and a chance to explode in a fit of rage. We all need to chill out!I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
I can't see why learner drivers cannot be given some slack, it baffles me, personally I always hang back, what's the point of stressing them..you aren't going anywhere 
It's a shame the Police are so hopeless in this country and don't actually perform a role as marshalling the roads, instead of nicking people for 34mph. Cyclists, learners, horse riders...they are all treated like s
t from the average joe who is just desperate to get to the next traffic jam. These same cretins are the ones who hit the brakes when an ambulance appears in their mirrors or accelerate at warp speed into a roundabout trying to cut everyone off. I'm sure if you ask them they would be the first to comment about eveyone else on the roads, and how good their own perception of danger and general awareness is.
It's a shame the Police are so hopeless in this country and don't actually perform a role as marshalling the roads, instead of nicking people for 34mph. Cyclists, learners, horse riders...they are all treated like s
t from the average joe who is just desperate to get to the next traffic jam. These same cretins are the ones who hit the brakes when an ambulance appears in their mirrors or accelerate at warp speed into a roundabout trying to cut everyone off. I'm sure if you ask them they would be the first to comment about eveyone else on the roads, and how good their own perception of danger and general awareness is. watching a piece on the telly about future development in car design.
The boffin was saying they the aim is to get more cars on a section of road. Ie traveling closer.
I hope he was talking about self driving cars.
So with ever increasing population/ cars, no more roads, we need to travel closer together.
Not my idea of fun.
The boffin was saying they the aim is to get more cars on a section of road. Ie traveling closer.
I hope he was talking about self driving cars.
So with ever increasing population/ cars, no more roads, we need to travel closer together.
Not my idea of fun.
The worst I've seen was in Tesco car park, a skinny, geeky looking chap in a Clio came shooting across the bays causing a Vectra to brake hard, the Vectra honked, the Clio stopped, started reversing to hit the Vectra, stopped inches away and started effing and blinding and saying "" a lot.
Then the very large chap got out the Vectra, The Clio was gone sharpish, The Vectra driver laughed at him shouting "that's what I thought".
I had a surprise last week, a Chevrolet thing pulled out a parking space in front and just stopped again, no indication to come out or stop again, I just missed hitting the back of it, I beeped and the driver put her hand up to apologize, obviously an honest mistake.
" a lot. Then the very large chap got out the Vectra, The Clio was gone sharpish, The Vectra driver laughed at him shouting "that's what I thought".
I had a surprise last week, a Chevrolet thing pulled out a parking space in front and just stopped again, no indication to come out or stop again, I just missed hitting the back of it, I beeped and the driver put her hand up to apologize, obviously an honest mistake.
IntriguedUser said:
I'm finding that lots of people are LOOKING for TROUBLE on the roads, why the F$£K do you need to flash your lights at me for overtaking you in a perfectly legal place? Just why? I give people plenty of space too?
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
One day when I was coming out of this junction I was edging out to see what was coming and to allow a woman in a Mini who had come across from the opposite road to get between me and cars parked at the roadside where you can see they are in the Streetview image. I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.745566,-2.48709,...
You have to be fairly sure it's clear and then go quickly because it's a one way road and everything is coming round a blind bend, usually heading into the outside lane and then staying there or moving across into the inside lane. You can't ease into the inside lane when traffic is in the outside lane as anyone could move across into the inside lane without accounting for you pulling out.
I wasn't a particularly long way out of the junction, certainly not enough to impede anybody coming round the corner and up the road as everybody was getting past no problem. Then one guy in a white Nissan Qashqai came round the bend, looked me in the eye, smirked at me and made a very deliberate swerve closely across the front of my car in some sort of protest at me positioning myself to see around all the fencing to pull out of the junction safely.
The other day I recognised him, now driving a new yellow Nissan Juke with black alloys, as he was sounding his horn at someone in front of him for giving way to someone on a mini roundabout.
He isn't a rager as such as he doesn't appear to be going around angry and stressed out, he seemed to think what he did to me was funny and clever, he's just a point maker. He thinks he's good and he's showing everyone else how big and clever he is. As someone else said, the little victories he scores over people when driving, in his mind at least, are probably the only triumphs and successes he has in life.
I recall watching a television programme about road rage where a guy was filmed on an in car camera going around shouting and swearing at people from inside his car. He was then asked by the programme makers to get some items in a supermarket and people were planted as customers to shout the same comments at him for getting in their way that he shouted at other motorists. He then came back grumbling about how rude people are.
Blakewater said:
One day when I was coming out of this junction I was edging out to see what was coming and to allow a woman in a Mini who had come across from the opposite road to get between me and cars parked at the roadside where you can see they are in the Streetview image.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.745566,-2.48709,...
You have to be fairly sure it's clear and then go quickly because it's a one way road and everything is coming round a blind bend, usually heading into the outside lane and then staying there or moving across into the inside lane. You can't ease into the inside lane when traffic is in the outside lane as anyone could move across into the inside lane without accounting for you pulling out.
I wasn't a particularly long way out of the junction, certainly not enough to impede anybody coming round the corner and up the road as everybody was getting past no problem. Then one guy in a white Nissan Qashqai came round the bend, looked me in the eye, smirked at me and made a very deliberate swerve closely across the front of my car in some sort of protest at me positioning myself to see around all the fencing to pull out of the junction safely.
The other day I recognised him, now driving a new yellow Nissan Juke with black alloys, as he was sounding his horn at someone in front of him for giving way to someone on a mini roundabout.
He isn't a rager as such as he doesn't appear to be going around angry and stressed out, he seemed to think what he did to me was funny and clever, he's just a point maker. He thinks he's good and he's showing everyone else how big and clever he is. As someone else said, the little victories he scores over people when driving, in his mind at least, are probably the only triumphs and successes he has in life.
I recall watching a television programme about road rage where a guy was filmed on an in car camera going around shouting and swearing at people from inside his car. He was then asked by the programme makers to get some items in a supermarket and people were planted as customers to shout the same comments at him for getting in their way that he shouted at other motorists. He then came back grumbling about how rude people are.
If he really was big and clever and a powerfully-built company director PH type he surely wouldn't be driving a POS Nissan Kashkow though would he?https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.745566,-2.48709,...
You have to be fairly sure it's clear and then go quickly because it's a one way road and everything is coming round a blind bend, usually heading into the outside lane and then staying there or moving across into the inside lane. You can't ease into the inside lane when traffic is in the outside lane as anyone could move across into the inside lane without accounting for you pulling out.
I wasn't a particularly long way out of the junction, certainly not enough to impede anybody coming round the corner and up the road as everybody was getting past no problem. Then one guy in a white Nissan Qashqai came round the bend, looked me in the eye, smirked at me and made a very deliberate swerve closely across the front of my car in some sort of protest at me positioning myself to see around all the fencing to pull out of the junction safely.
The other day I recognised him, now driving a new yellow Nissan Juke with black alloys, as he was sounding his horn at someone in front of him for giving way to someone on a mini roundabout.
He isn't a rager as such as he doesn't appear to be going around angry and stressed out, he seemed to think what he did to me was funny and clever, he's just a point maker. He thinks he's good and he's showing everyone else how big and clever he is. As someone else said, the little victories he scores over people when driving, in his mind at least, are probably the only triumphs and successes he has in life.
I recall watching a television programme about road rage where a guy was filmed on an in car camera going around shouting and swearing at people from inside his car. He was then asked by the programme makers to get some items in a supermarket and people were planted as customers to shout the same comments at him for getting in their way that he shouted at other motorists. He then came back grumbling about how rude people are.
I did the IAM course 6 yrs ago & while I have gained much needed driving skills, the one thing that took longer to develop is quiet patience that seemed to be at the centre of everything my observer (a serving traffic cop) has.
I now believe that my attitude / generally improved approach to life is reflected in my driving now. This is not what I expected from an IAM course, but it's what has happened.
I now believe that my attitude / generally improved approach to life is reflected in my driving now. This is not what I expected from an IAM course, but it's what has happened.
IntriguedUser said:
I'm finding that lots of people are LOOKING for TROUBLE on the roads, why the F$£K do you need to flash your lights at me for overtaking you in a perfectly legal place? Just why? I give people plenty of space too?
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
One word: Eintitlement.I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
Many people think they are entitled to everything these days, and that includes people leaping out of their way on the roads.
carlove said:
The worst I've seen was in Tesco car park, a skinny, geeky looking chap in a Clio came shooting across the bays causing a Vectra to brake hard, the Vectra honked, the Clio stopped, started reversing to hit the Vectra, stopped inches away and started effing and blinding and saying "" a lot.
Then the very large chap got out the Vectra, The Clio was gone sharpish, The Vectra driver laughed at him shouting "that's what I thought".
Love it " a lot. Then the very large chap got out the Vectra, The Clio was gone sharpish, The Vectra driver laughed at him shouting "that's what I thought".
For some reason, many people get very irate over (perceived poor) vehicle driving, yet would probably be far calmer in other conflict situations. What is it with drivers (and i have felt rage occasionally myself on the road) where situations annoy us SO much more than say someone walking across our path at the supermarket without looking? Or someone jumping the queue at the coffee shop? Is it that we feel more powerful with tons of metal round us?
WHY is someone going first when they perhaps shouldn't have, SUCH a big deal?
Two guys in Chesterfield were going crazy at each other last week and all over one of them taking too long to pull away from the lights.
WHY is someone going first when they perhaps shouldn't have, SUCH a big deal?
Two guys in Chesterfield were going crazy at each other last week and all over one of them taking too long to pull away from the lights.
hora said:
Get to McDonalds before the Breakfast menu closes, get to the gym earlier, get to Dixons quicker to pick up the new 50inch TV, be only 5mins late for work in Moss Bros, get to the newsaegents just before the Lottery ticket cut-off and show off your obvious skills to your new 17yr old girlfriend.
As well as people leaving too little time to do the things they want to do I think there is another similar force at work.I think a lot of people are 'on the clock' in one way or another. I really think time constraints or incentives placed on the likes of delivery drivers, truck drivers (and in particular in London, tipper drivers) distorts these people's behaviour.
I would say it's getting much worse where I am (Aylesbury vale) and would mainly put it down to the massive number of new homes (currently well over a 1000 every year) and nothing is done to help the roads cope with this. So what we now have is commute times are taking longer and in my personal experience I join pretty bad traffic the moment I leave home, people are getting fed up with this and everyday people are using the wrong lane at roundabouts to miss the queue but having some near misses the beat the car in the correct lane. It hard to get above 45mph and 9 miles can take up to 40 minutes and reading the local news road rage attacks are becoming fairly common and in the past 2 weeks we have had 3 people killed in crashes and one with life changing injuries. When people are going to be late for work, meetings etc because of traffic then I can only see this getting worse
ash73 said:
One solution is more flexible working times, it's daft everyone rushing to get to their offices by 9am, then all rushing home at the same time. If I leave home after 9am my journey time is halved, and I'm much fresher when I get there; but everyone moans that I'm late (while sitting there eating their breakfast).
Exactly this, especially when the kids are at school so that traffic clashes with the commuters.Even 30 minutes earlier or later than my usual 'arrive at 8am' driving time makes a huge difference.
IntriguedUser said:
I also notice that when pulling out from junctions/side roads going onto major road, people seem to "Drive into you" I can't string along a sentence in any other way to describe it. It seems even if there's enough space, you pull out, and people seem to speed up on PURPOSE to make it look like you're doing something wrong.
WTF?
From a minor to major road you have to be able to pull out and match the speed of the cars in the lane you are entering, are you sure you are doing that?WTF?
If you're not then that can be quite annoying.
ash73 said:
One solution is more flexible working times, and a change in attitudes; it's daft everyone rushing to get to their offices by 9am, then all rushing home at the same time. If I leave home after 9am my journey time is halved, and I'm much fresher when I get there, but everyone moans that I'm late (while sitting there eating their breakfast).
YES, I agree, it’s a great solution, why do we have these traditional times of work it needs to change. Imagine if core hours worked were decided by yourself, afternoon start, midnight start, it would greatly free up roads and rail.I’d love to see a tax incentive, a large wedge of cash, given to haulage firms to operate from 10pm to 7am.
We need to modernise.
rich85uk said:
I would say it's getting much worse where I am (Aylesbury vale) and would mainly put it down to the massive number of new homes (currently well over a 1000 every year) and nothing is done to help the roads cope with this. So what we now have is commute times are taking longer and in my personal experience I join pretty bad traffic the moment I leave home, people are getting fed up with this and everyday people are using the wrong lane at roundabouts to miss the queue but having some near misses the beat the car in the correct lane. It hard to get above 45mph and 9 miles can take up to 40 minutes and reading the local news road rage attacks are becoming fairly common and in the past 2 weeks we have had 3 people killed in crashes and one with life changing injuries. When people are going to be late for work, meetings etc because of traffic then I can only see this getting worse
9 miles, 40 minutes? Use a pushbike to get to work, surely? OpulentBob said:
rich85uk said:
I would say it's getting much worse where I am (Aylesbury vale) and would mainly put it down to the massive number of new homes (currently well over a 1000 every year) and nothing is done to help the roads cope with this. So what we now have is commute times are taking longer and in my personal experience I join pretty bad traffic the moment I leave home, people are getting fed up with this and everyday people are using the wrong lane at roundabouts to miss the queue but having some near misses the beat the car in the correct lane. It hard to get above 45mph and 9 miles can take up to 40 minutes and reading the local news road rage attacks are becoming fairly common and in the past 2 weeks we have had 3 people killed in crashes and one with life changing injuries. When people are going to be late for work, meetings etc because of traffic then I can only see this getting worse
9 miles, 40 minutes? Use a pushbike to get to work, surely? yonex said:
OpulentBob said:
9 miles, 40 minutes? Use a pushbike to get to work, surely?
I am based in a similar area of the UK. 9 miles on the bike to work at worst is 40 minutes, best 22, which is not too far off of an average car journey.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff