Ambulance fine 115mph in a 50

[Pete317]

saaby93 said:

The point here is there is a 50mph camera.

As I have pointed out before, until very recently there were lots of 50mph average speed cameras on the motorways near Bristol, for a very long time.

[saaby93]

Pete317 said:

saaby93 said:

The point here is there is a 50mph camera.

As I have pointed out before, until very recently there were lots of 50mph average speed cameras on the motorways near Bristol, for a very long time.

and.......??????
Like I said
If theyre there for a purpose fine, no one should be exceeding the limit due to the danger (and there's a margin for emergency services)
If they're not, take them out

[Pete317]

Take them out, I couldn't agree more.

[RemyMartin]

Coolhands showed his hand much earlier, his beef comes from a certain dislike of a parmedic in his area. Seems to be unable to get past this and assumes all paramedic rush around like loons. Pretty pathetic tbh but it is enormously funny being torn apart with facts.

[saaby93]

RemyMartin said:

Coolhands showed his hand much earlier, his beef comes from a certain dislike of a parmedic in his area. Seems to be unable to get past this and assumes all paramedic rush around like loons. Pretty pathetic tbh but it is enormously funny being torn apart with facts.

Ah that's what it was. It looked like a few posters had taken a certain dislike to Coolhands. Maybe the posts from the fast responders will help.
It looks like he's onside with them generally

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 25th July 14:59

[matchmaker]

CoolHands said:

FD3Si said:

It's very rare that something I read makes me wish I could reach through the screen, grab someone, and punch them squarely in the chops, but congratulations, this thread, you have achieved it.

I hope if any of you pompous morons are ever in the nasty situation where you need medical attention as quick as is if fking possible, then you have a think about the words your fingers smashed into the keyboards on this bit of the internet.

EDIT: To add an example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20798090
Cardiac arrest patients:
'The estimated effect of a 1 min reduction in response time was to improve the odds of survival by 24%'

To any NHS/general emergency staff reading this - keep doing what you're doing, that majority of the populace are eternally grateful, it must be utterly demoralising and craptacular having to deal with the sort of fkwittery scrawled on here on a regular basis. And thank you for saving the lives of several of my friends.

you're an idiot.

The irony...

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

There's an ambulance forum where they discuss they can exceed the speed limit, but theres a 20mph guideline.

So on the motorway, they can do 90. At which speed they will be being tailgated / overtaken by some completely untrained moron who's also updating their facebook account at the same time. hmm sounds like sensible "rules" to me..........

[Vipers]

kambites said:

I also think a lot of 40s and 50s are put there for noise pollution reasons more than safety ones. I suppose disturbing the locals occasionally to get to emergencies is viewed as acceptable.

Then again, the A90 dual carriageway where NSL reigns, it reduces to 50 for a junction, over the years there have been numerous accidents at that junction, so it was reduced from NSL to 50.

Edited by Vipers on Saturday 25th July 17:20

[mph1977]

Max_Torque said:

saaby93 said:

There's an ambulance forum where they discuss they can exceed the speed limit, but theres a 20mph guideline.

So on the motorway, they can do 90. At which speed they will be being tailgated / overtaken by some completely untrained moron who's also updating their facebook account at the same time. hmm sounds like sensible "rules" to me..........

dependson the organisational policy, some policies i've seen have a sliding scale of 'acceptable, in that we'll back you and say you were within your training etc unless you are complete moron ' amounts where exceeding the limit when caliming exemptions will float ... and the 20 figure may well refer to 30s and 40s

[CoolHands]

well for completeness and to show I'm not afraid of undermining my own argument, I did a FOI request for the location of the 115mph transgression, and it was on "the M5 motorway" on a blue-light call. That's all the detail given so it doesn't specify the junction or whatever.

[IATM]

Reading some of the comments on here you would think the driver was doing 170.

[mybrainhurts]

scorcher said:

saaby93 said:

115mph in a 50. Begs the question should it be a 50?
(ETA probably a well known hot spot to have a camera)

Probably Somerset where we have miles of 40mph buffer zones, 24/7 20mph limits outside of schools and perfectly good A roads that were once NSL but, because speed kills, or there's a house on the side of the road, or a junction , they have all been dropped to lower limits. Luckily a lot of the bouncy single track B roads are still NSL.

Not just Somerset, old boy.

These are Dunwoody limits, spreading around the country as local authorities discover they can, thanks to Gwyneth Dunwoody.

[fluffnik]

CoolHands said:

if it was 115 he should be prosecuted. Responding to an 'emergency' does not mean its ok to put everyone else at excessive risk. That's an indefensible speed imo.

None it's not!

There are plenty of places where it is sufficiently well sighted to safely do 115mph, even with light traffic.

There are a good many places where you could do 150mph, and stop, before any incoming traffic noticed that the dot on the horizon was growing more rapidly than expected...

[Hol]

CoolHands said:

well for completeness and to show I'm not afraid of undermining my own argument, I did a FOI request for the location of the 115mph transgression, and it was on "the M5 motorway" on a blue-light call. That's all the detail given so it doesn't specify the junction or whatever.

So, it wasn't a high street, residential street or outside a school?


I don't advocate or defend people going at speed for the drivers personal gratification, but 115mph on a multi lane motorway with blue lights flashing on a bona fide emergency call, hardly seems the same from a rational point of view.