Ambulance fine 115mph in a 50
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33008967
ok you expect an ambulance may go a little quicker than the limit on a run, or maybe keep to the limit but hope other drivers let them by.
115mph in a 50. Begs the question should it be a 50?
(ETA probably a well known hot spot to have a camera)
Should there be automatic exemption any ambulance any time any place
ok you expect an ambulance may go a little quicker than the limit on a run, or maybe keep to the limit but hope other drivers let them by.
115mph in a 50. Begs the question should it be a 50?
(ETA probably a well known hot spot to have a camera)
Should there be automatic exemption any ambulance any time any place
Edited by saaby93 on Friday 24th July 00:24
saaby93 said:
115mph in a 50. Begs the question should it be a 50?
(ETA probably a well known hot spot to have a camera)
Probably Somerset where we have miles of 40mph buffer zones, 24/7 20mph limits outside of schools and perfectly good A roads that were once NSL but, because speed kills, or there's a house on the side of the road, or a junction , they have all been dropped to lower limits. Luckily a lot of the bouncy single track B roads are still NSL.(ETA probably a well known hot spot to have a camera)
Rickyy said:
GrumpyTwig said:
Kind of surprised someone got one to do 115mph, I can't imagine they stop that well though?
I'd imagine it was a paramedic car rather than a full fat ambulance.CoolHands said:
if it was 115 he should be prosecuted. Responding to an 'emergency' does not mean its ok to put everyone else at excessive risk. That's an indefensible speed imo.
There are no roads in the whole of the SouthWest where it's safe to do that speed? Highly doubt that. It entirely depends on the circumstances. Straight DC, no entries/exits, on a bike, no issue. Urban clearway middle of day in a proper ambulance (downhill, naturally 
) no so much.CoolHands said:
if it was 115 he should be prosecuted. Responding to an 'emergency' does not mean its ok to put everyone else at excessive risk. That's an indefensible speed imo.
Paramedics / Technicians aren't trained to drive ambulances per say. They are trained to appropriately assess risks to both themselves and others. IMO, they are pretty damn good at it.I'm sure that the speed wouldn't have been done 'just for the sake of it'.
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Ste1987 said:
CoolHands said:
if it was 115 he should be prosecuted. Responding to an 'emergency' does not mean its ok to put everyone else at excessive risk. That's an indefensible speed imo.
What if doing that speed made the difference that the patient didn't die?
king idiot. On a number of occasions I've seen him hurtling along at crazy speeds, shades on (natch), thinking he's michael schumacher. He clearly thinks he's great, but he's a moron. Just because you _might_ be about to save someone's life (mostly not though, eh) doesn't give you carte blanche to do what you want.CoolHands said:
it still wasnt worth it. There's one paramedic round here I've noticed that drives like a fking idiot. On a number of occasions I've seen him hurtling along at crazy speeds, shades on (natch), thinking he's michael schumacher. He clearly thinks he's great, but he's a moron. Just because you _might_ be about to save someone's life (mostly not though, eh) doesn't give you carte blanche to do what you want.
Unfortunately there will always be one to give the others a bad name... I would still maintain that he is the exception rather than the rule though king idiot. On a number of occasions I've seen him hurtling along at crazy speeds, shades on (natch), thinking he's michael schumacher. He clearly thinks he's great, but he's a moron. Just because you _might_ be about to save someone's life (mostly not though, eh) doesn't give you carte blanche to do what you want.I think that's a point. You see those paramedic cars around here ( and everywhere) They need to get to the destination but in one piece. Theyre generally at NSL but maybe no more than that, relying on other motorists to allow them to make progress. They dont want to be the next call out or headline.
Do they have driver training?
Do they have driver training?
to the person suggesting that frontline ambulance staff aren;t trained to drive under emergency conditions
funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
as to whether 115 in a 50 is acceptable depends ona coupel of things
1. what the road is like
2. is a political 50 when it should be NSL
3. organisational policy
funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
as to whether 115 in a 50 is acceptable depends ona coupel of things
1. what the road is like
2. is a political 50 when it should be NSL
3. organisational policy
Edited by mph1977 on Friday 24th July 09:46
mph1977 said:
to the person suggesting that frontline ambulance staff aren;t trained to drive under emergency conditions
funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
3 weeks on driving?funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
The odd thing about this is we're not talking about a clear open road, it's a place they've found it necessary to place a camera. Or would that be a clear open road?
Seen a trend on here and ttfacebook of some people really knocking ambulance drivers and whingeing about them. Not every poster, just a few arm chair experts having a whinge
When my daughter was near death, turned blue and couldn't breath from choking, holding her in our arms like she was going to die, the ambulance got to us in under 3 minutes, that's bloody brilliant, if it meant someone hit excessive speeds then so be it, any longer and we might not be so lucky
There was a women near me complaining "IS IT REALLY NECESEARY (spelt like that) FOR AMBULANCES TO USE SIRENS AT 6am SUNDAY MORNING" to which a lady replied on facebook; "Sorry that would have been going to me , my 8 year old son passed away, I hope you fell back asleep OK "
Hats off to paramedics and all frontline NHS staff, the nimbys and armchair ttfaces long with bureaucratic bullst must really grind them down
tfacebook of some people really knocking ambulance drivers and whingeing about them. Not every poster, just a few arm chair experts having a whinge When my daughter was near death, turned blue and couldn't breath from choking, holding her in our arms like she was going to die, the ambulance got to us in under 3 minutes, that's bloody brilliant, if it meant someone hit excessive speeds then so be it, any longer and we might not be so lucky
There was a women near me complaining "IS IT REALLY NECESEARY (spelt like that) FOR AMBULANCES TO USE SIRENS AT 6am SUNDAY MORNING" to which a lady replied on facebook; "Sorry that would have been going to me , my 8 year old son passed away, I hope you fell back asleep OK "
Hats off to paramedics and all frontline NHS staff, the nimbys and armchair t
tfaces long with bureaucratic bullst must really grind them down saaby93 said:
mph1977 said:
to the person suggesting that frontline ambulance staff aren;t trained to drive under emergency conditions
funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
3 weeks on driving?funny three weeks course that all NHS frontline staff ( apart from a handful of dinosaurs who scraped in when it was still optional) and staff working for decent Private / Voluntary sector providers do before being let loose on the road with blues ...
The odd thing about this is we're not talking about a clear open road, it's a place they've found it necessary to place a camera. Or would that be a clear open road?
Ambulance course is split into 2 qualifications the first week is an 'advanced driving ' type syllabus - the guys and girls who do PTS (outpatient and none emergency transfers) stop after that , then a week of driving using exemptions but no warning devices and a week of blues and twos ... which is asimilar structure to the police Response course.
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