2 young guys killed in Austrian Alps racing. Came off a clif
Discussion
I'm sure they could have hit 90mph before the corner, but what's not clear is why someone is saying that 30kph would be the permitted/advised/allowed/legal speed at that point, as there's no signage to show that other than a red triangle painted on the road (maybe that is enough by Austrian law, I don't know).
In any case, as someone has pointed out, the actual speed limit is largely irrelevant as anyone driving that road should be regulating their speed in accordance with what's coming up ahead, the conditions, their car's stopping power and their own driving ability.
Not looking and planning ahead is the most important driving skill lacking in the majority of drivers of all ages.
In any case, as someone has pointed out, the actual speed limit is largely irrelevant as anyone driving that road should be regulating their speed in accordance with what's coming up ahead, the conditions, their car's stopping power and their own driving ability.
Not looking and planning ahead is the most important driving skill lacking in the majority of drivers of all ages.
heronio said:
Scan left on the webcam to the car park on the opposite side of the hill and drop back to 6.40am.. is this them? I can't work out if this would be a Leon or not. Certainly a black or blue car..
Sitting on a rock(?)
Walking down the footpath
2 people standing next to the car
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The dark wheels, vehicle shape and colour scheme suggest it is very possible. Sitting on a rock(?)
Walking down the footpath
2 people standing next to the car
Click the images to get to the imgur hosting, and then click the picture again to get the original size. This was as far as it would zoom in.
That's really early to be out and about, considering they had to drive there from their hotel in the first place. Their videos suggested there was partying on previous evenings so perhaps that played a part also given the very early rise.
So many possible causes but each of them point towards a looming disaster unfortunately.
OpulentBob said:
Car needs good tyres shocker.
As i said before, my rev 1 on 16 inch wheels with a decent geo set up was as solid as a rock, I would run out of balls long before the car was at its limits. To lose control in one, you must have been driving like a lunatic, or as said before, it was broken.
Turbo is a different animal, but to lose it in an NA suggests driving it like you're playing GTA.
Thinking about it i never had one let go on standard wheels but i had both N/A and turbo let go on aftermarket 17"As i said before, my rev 1 on 16 inch wheels with a decent geo set up was as solid as a rock, I would run out of balls long before the car was at its limits. To lose control in one, you must have been driving like a lunatic, or as said before, it was broken.
Turbo is a different animal, but to lose it in an NA suggests driving it like you're playing GTA.
Turbo was on a staggered fitment et32 front et30 rear 17j if i remember.
N/A was on non staggered 17" set up
FurtiveFreddy said:
I'm sure they could have hit 90mph before the corner, but what's not clear is why someone is saying that 30kph would be the permitted/advised/allowed/legal speed at that point, as there's no signage to show that other than a red triangle painted on the road (maybe that is enough by Austrian law, I don't know).
In any case, as someone has pointed out, the actual speed limit is largely irrelevant as anyone driving that road should be regulating their speed in accordance with what's coming up ahead, the conditions, their car's stopping power and their own driving ability.
Not looking and planning ahead is the most important driving skill lacking in the majority of drivers of all ages.
If it is 80 kph then they weren't doing five times that speed. That corner doesn't look appropriate for even 80 kph never mind more.In any case, as someone has pointed out, the actual speed limit is largely irrelevant as anyone driving that road should be regulating their speed in accordance with what's coming up ahead, the conditions, their car's stopping power and their own driving ability.
Not looking and planning ahead is the most important driving skill lacking in the majority of drivers of all ages.
paulyv said:
heronio said:
Scan left on the webcam to the car park on the opposite side of the hill and drop back to 6.40am.. is this them? I can't work out if this would be a Leon or not. Certainly a black or blue car..
Sitting on a rock(?)
Walking down the footpath
2 people standing next to the car
Click the images to get to the imgur hosting, and then click the picture again to get the original size. This was as far as it would zoom in.
The dark wheels, vehicle shape and colour scheme suggest it is very possible. Sitting on a rock(?)
Walking down the footpath
2 people standing next to the car
Click the images to get to the imgur hosting, and then click the picture again to get the original size. This was as far as it would zoom in.
That's really early to be out and about, considering they had to drive there from their hotel in the first place. Their videos suggested there was partying on previous evenings so perhaps that played a part also given the very early rise.
So many possible causes but each of them point towards a looming disaster unfortunately.
razor04 said:
Looks like part of the front bumper / valance is missing ? there were reports of a front end accident the previous day was there not?
Perhaps a mechanical failure isn't as unlikely as it seems. If the steering or suspension took a whack in a previous incident it could have let go at the wrong moment
zebra said:
1430 said:
Not a bad way to die that road looks amazing.
Have a word with yourself; inappropriate post there fella.
It is, I suspect, how a lot of people who indulge in high risk activities think. Other than the 'it won't happen to me' of course.
The problem really is the families left behind, and the people who have to clear up the mess.
KTF said:
razor04 said:
Or the aerodynamics of the front end were upset by the missing valance? causing front end lift at speed?
You really think it would make that much of a difference?Any speed with which aerodynamic effect would take place would mean they were hopelessly too fast to make the corner regardless.
I honestly can't make out if the car looks damaged or if it's just a low res grainy image. I can't make out if it even look like a Leon never mind that I can't see the event stickers down the side of the car like in previous photos of them.
I honestly can't make out if the car looks damaged or if it's just a low res grainy image. I can't make out if it even look like a Leon never mind that I can't see the event stickers down the side of the car like in previous photos of them.
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