2 young guys killed in Austrian Alps racing. Came off a clif

[littleredrooster]

Inquest has just concluded.

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/plymouth-man-invol...

[baldy1926]

It reads as if they were not wearing seatbelts as well.
At least there is closure for the families now

[TooMany2cvs]

baldy1926 said:

It reads as if they were not wearing seatbelts as well.

Wuckfittery, certainly, but I'm unconvinced it would have made the slightest bit of difference...




Estimates of a 60m drop before the FIRST impact, then another 250-300m of bouncing before the car came to rest.

[Driver101]

baldy1926 said:

It reads as if they were not wearing seatbelts as well.
At least there is closure for the families now

Not necessarily.

The impact could have squashed the car before the seatbelts were any use. The impact and angles could have thrown them from their seatbelts.

There's not much left of the car and the seatbelts wouldn't be at the position required to hold anyone in.

Was the other driver charged for racing at the time?

[hairyben]

TooMany2cvs said:

baldy1926 said:

It reads as if they were not wearing seatbelts as well.

Wuckfittery, certainly, but I'm unconvinced it would have made the slightest bit of difference...

Says a lot about their attitude though.

[TooMany2cvs]

hairyben said:

TooMany2cvs said:

baldy1926 said:

It reads as if they were not wearing seatbelts as well.

Wuckfittery, certainly, but I'm unconvinced it would have made the slightest bit of difference...

Says a lot about their attitude though.

If it's true... I can certainly see Driver101's suggestion being feasible. <shrug> We'll never know.

[rallycross]

Always a high risk of people doing silly things on these organised events but let's be clear its not a race or rally of any form it's just driving on public roads.

[Hub]

They've got belts on in all the photos so it would be odd if they hadn't on that drive - but like said it wouldn't have made much difference. They were just driving too fast on roads they didn't know.

[Petrolhead95]

Well it was quite a tidy car. Used to see it around a lot at local meets.

[Welshbeef]

The drop is worse than at the start of the original Italian job & we can all see the damage caused on those cars.

An utterly terrifying way to die the first impact after flying for 60m might have knocked them out /you can only hope it did.


The driving hey showed on facebook the day before wasn't good tyres chirping at most corners with zero tolerance for error. They pushed it hard and even commented on the video if you went over there is no second chances that's it.

[Gary C]

Petrolhead95 said:

Well it was quite a tidy car. Used to see it around a lot at local meets.

But it had been modified just before that rally, and he did say in a post it was making a clunking noise. It is possible something came adrift.?

Edited to remove someone else's post from the middle !

Edited by Gary C on Monday 14th November 09:19

[Nickyboy]

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

[Welshbeef]

Nickyboy said:

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

fk!!!

[316Mining]

No report on speedo final reading?

[Welshbeef]

Nickyboy said:

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

fk!!!

[diddles]

Nickyboy said:

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

If anything, survival odds may have been better NOT wearing a seat belt.

[Welshbeef]

diddles said:

Nickyboy said:

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

If anything, survival odds may have been better NOT wearing a seat belt.

Didn't they vertically fall 400m onto a Rocky Mountain?
I'm not sure there is anyway they could have survived. Plus the time from going through the barrier to hitting the ground would have been some time 10 seconds?

[hora]

Nickyboy said:

I don't think seatbelts or even race harnesses would have made a dab of difference tbh

R.I.P.

The seatbelt reference in the article seems to be unfair and out of order.

[heebeegeetee]

hora said:

R.I.P.

The seatbelt reference in the article seems to be unfair and out of order.

As is all the references to "racing". It's a load of hogwash.

[Welshbeef]

heebeegeetee said:

hora said:

R.I.P.

The seatbelt reference in the article seems to be unfair and out of order.

As is all the references to "racing". It's a load of hogwash.

Who knows what happened at that corner

Sun-glare meaning they went too close to the kerb which ripped the tyre off and then through the barrier
Animal ran out on he road in front of them
Mechanical failure
Failed tyre
Possibly driving way beyond the conditions

End of the day it cannot have been racing as the Porsche was nowhere near plus who would try racing on a public road with no second chances if you get it wrong.

Two people died in a car didn't impact anyone else directly.