2 young guys killed in Austrian Alps racing. Came off a clif

[Red 5]

My thoughts go out to their families!

I never considdered going quickly on that toad when I was there. To do that would have been to miss all the amazing views!


R.I.P lads..

[Bonefish Blues]

williamp said:

Daily nail has names anc z picture. RIP to you both

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173276/Tw...

I know it's the Mail, I know their readership, but some of the comments leave one aghast.

Such a shame, young lads doing what they loved.

[davemac250]

It's not even worth looking at the comments section.

Most would benefit from a swift kick in the arse with a 50m run up

[em177]

crofty1984 said:

What car's that? My mate's on a road trip in Austria in a blue car

Hoping it wasn't them in the end?

[andrewparker]

Bonefish Blues said:

williamp said:

Daily nail has names anc z picture. RIP to you both

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173276/Tw...

I know it's the Mail, I know their readership, but some of the comments leave one aghast.

Such a shame, young lads doing what they loved.

As said, best given a wide berth, but sometimes I can't help myself. Some of the comments almost go as far as to say they deserved it, which is bonkers particularly when the circumstances surrounding the crash are pure speculation at this point. Compassion is such a rare thing these days.

[danjama]

Those comments really are infuriating!

[okgo]

Why are they?

Most of them are words to the effect of 'sad but foolish' which seems about right based on what others on here have said about that road?

[soad]

Just seen the mangled car photos!

[audidoody]

TTmonkey said:

The journalists at the DM are without doubt, hmmmm what's the phrase.... 'Kuntz'.

They're not journalists. They are low-paid media studies graduates paid peanuts to monitor social networking sites and steal, cut and paste anything deemed of interest, rewriting it to a style guide involving every cliche known to man

[SonicShadow]

optimal909 said:

Toyo is the single worst tyre brand I've ever had on any cars I've driven, it was factory fitted on some of my company cars. Poor grip under any conditions.

Once working for the "good handling" car company we've organised a product event featuring competitor vehicles, and on one of those slippery test sections we were planning to demonstrate the usefulness of ESP against a "bad handling" car company's model without ESP.

Then the guests started to come back to report that the car without ESP was much better - tried it, and they were right. The difference?
Car with ESP had Toyo Proxes, the car without ESP Michelin Pilot Exalto...

More expensive tyre performs better, shocking...

[Andy665]

Looking at the event organisers website it appears vastly more responsible than a lot of other types of events.

Tragic end to young lives and may be more down to youthful over enthusiasm - can any of us say we didn't suffer from that at times

[danjama]

okgo said:

Why are they?

Most of them are words to the effect of 'sad but foolish' which seems about right based on what others on here have said about that road?

Click on view all. Scroll down for 5 minutes. I really don't want to look at them again to copy and paste.

[SirTK]

Age has given me a bit of a phobia about unguarded or badly guarded mountain roads. Didn't bother me in the past but I'm now conscious that a front wheel puncture (or whatever) could have me plunging to an ugly death.

I'm told by locals that guard rails can't be too comprehensive as the snow ploughs need the snow to go over the top of them. Doesn't make much sense to me as they close the passes anyway when the snow gets too bad.

I got caught out one time when I decided to use the Gotthard Pass instead of the tunnel. It's well guarded for most of the way but suddenly the armco stops and is replaced by stone blocks several meters apart. It's probably only for about a kilometer, but why?

Tragic about the lads; I'm sure they were well aware of the risks, but it's horrible for their families.

TK

[gowmonster]

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4...

Sad news, nothing on the forums to sugest he was normally reckless, probably just an enthusiast like us that just miscalculated something

[heebeegeetee]

SirTK said:

Age has given me a bit of a phobia about unguarded or badly guarded mountain roads. Didn't bother me in the past but I'm now conscious that a front wheel puncture (or whatever) could have me plunging to an ugly death.

Eh?

[zarjaz1991]

Always makes me terribly upset when I see a forum full of someone excitedly posting about something they are going to do, only for them to lose their life while doing it. All that build up, the looking forward to it, the excitement, and then......

Didn't seem like he was any sort of reckless driver from reading many of his posts on that side...quite the opposite. Seemed comfortable driving all across Europe at a young age so probably a decent driver by all accounts (I know a lot of people who would be terrified of taking their car abroad and driving on the "wrong" side).

These lads were around my age.....so awful.

[littleredrooster]

Leptons said:

R.I.P lads.



Can't help but think there will be a knee jerk reaction towards these "Races" now.

FFS!! It's not a "Race"! It's a glorified European tour.

You're as bad as the feckin' eejit journos who wrote the crap report in the Daily Wail.

[Leptons]

littleredrooster said:

FFS!! It's not a "Race"! It's a glorified European tour.

You're as bad as the feckin' eejit journos who wrote the crap report in the Daily Wail.

Ok calm down, I was quoting The Mail you stupid .

[snoopy25]

littleredrooster said:

FFS!! It's not a "Race"! It's a glorified European tour.

You're as bad as the feckin' eejit journos who wrote the crap report in the Daily Wail.

I think you will find thats why the word race was in " "

[Roo]

Leptons said:

Ok calm down, I was quoting The Mail you stupid .

The printed article in the paper is much better written.