RE: Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy: Driven
Discussion
It frustrates me that there isn't the slippy diff and the manual 'box from the Nismo Juke RS thing. Surly being a Trophy model and looking at the current Megane Trophy, i'd have though it would have considering the 208 30th and upcoming 208 by 'Peugeot Sport' has them and even the Corsa VXR with it's 'Performance Pack'. Seems like a requirement these days.
I do like the way it looks and the interior does look like a nice place to be but that's not to point really.
I do like the way it looks and the interior does look like a nice place to be but that's not to point really.
They've steadily got worse since the 182 imo, having owned them all, nothing beats the fun you can have in a mk2, my mk3 was a nice place to be and more practical but didn't live up to the magazine hype for me
I loved my 250cup but it was too easy to drive fast, These new clios are going the megane route now, fast over fun
I've gone to a Honda s2k while the ST depreciates, then I'll pick one up over this clio
I loved my 250cup but it was too easy to drive fast, These new clios are going the megane route now, fast over fun
I've gone to a Honda s2k while the ST depreciates, then I'll pick one up over this clio
Gandahar said:
PunterCam said:
Load of s
te.
Looks completely dull
All Renault hot hatches look dull. Not lookers are they ! That's missing the point. te.Looks completely dull
This is just a lowered clio with some big wheels. Totally undesirable.
kambites said:
We've got to the point where a Clio comes with 18 inch wheels as standard? 
A manual gearbox as a cost option would be an interesting idea but I doubt many people would specify it. It seems to me that the market for this class of hot hatch is rapidly following the bigger cars down the "fast is more important than fun" route. Traditionally Renault have been very good at avoiding that temptation but it seems those days are gone.
Here's hoping for an RS Twingo which is targeted more at having fun at lowish speeds.
Does the Fiesta ST not completely contradict your gearbox and fast/fun thoughts though?A manual gearbox as a cost option would be an interesting idea but I doubt many people would specify it. It seems to me that the market for this class of hot hatch is rapidly following the bigger cars down the "fast is more important than fun" route. Traditionally Renault have been very good at avoiding that temptation but it seems those days are gone.
Here's hoping for an RS Twingo which is targeted more at having fun at lowish speeds.
Edited by kambites on Sunday 26th July 11:17
I'm with you on a Twingo RS done right though!
morgs_ said:
kambites said:
We've got to the point where a Clio comes with 18 inch wheels as standard?
A manual gearbox as a cost option would be an interesting idea but I doubt many people would specify it. It seems to me that the market for this class of hot hatch is rapidly following the bigger cars down the "fast is more important than fun" route. Traditionally Renault have been very good at avoiding that temptation but it seems those days are gone.
Here's hoping for an RS Twingo which is targeted more at having fun at lowish speeds.
Does the Fiesta ST not completely contradict your gearbox and fast/fun thoughts though?A manual gearbox as a cost option would be an interesting idea but I doubt many people would specify it. It seems to me that the market for this class of hot hatch is rapidly following the bigger cars down the "fast is more important than fun" route. Traditionally Renault have been very good at avoiding that temptation but it seems those days are gone.
Here's hoping for an RS Twingo which is targeted more at having fun at lowish speeds.
Edited by kambites on Sunday 26th July 11:17
I'm with you on a Twingo RS done right though!
There are plenty of 1.2 litre Audi A3 S-Lines that look rather faster than they actually are...
I would love to know how many of the 'critics' have actually driven a 220 Trophy for any length of time?
I currently own an R26 Megane as my ' fun car', which I love (most of the time!). It is largely standard (just a stage 1 remap) and I have used it for a couple of track days at Castle Combe.
I am already committed to the semi-automatic route for my work car (Kadjar), so decided to try the Trophy 220 as a possible way forward. I was lucky enough to borrow a demonstrator for half a day and to be trusted with it without the salesperson being present. I had a massive grin on my face for the whole of the time, whether in Sport or Race mode.
An S/A gearbox car has to be driven differently to a manual box - if anything, 'Race' mode encourages you to make your gearchanges at the correct time and not rely on changing halfway around the corner. Learning to maximise something different takes time, which in fairness, most people probably don't get on a standard 30 min test drive with salesperson present. I can understand why a short test, stuck in Normal mode would leave someone uninspired!
Suffice to say, a new 220 has been ordered in the same spec as the article car, and the R26 will be going. I can't give a higher commendation than this. Also, to the contributor who hasn't seen any in Aberdeen, but sees STs everywhere, this is a positive to me - I like having something little less common. This has always been the case when comparing quantities of Fords to Renaults.
I currently own an R26 Megane as my ' fun car', which I love (most of the time!). It is largely standard (just a stage 1 remap) and I have used it for a couple of track days at Castle Combe.
I am already committed to the semi-automatic route for my work car (Kadjar), so decided to try the Trophy 220 as a possible way forward. I was lucky enough to borrow a demonstrator for half a day and to be trusted with it without the salesperson being present. I had a massive grin on my face for the whole of the time, whether in Sport or Race mode.
An S/A gearbox car has to be driven differently to a manual box - if anything, 'Race' mode encourages you to make your gearchanges at the correct time and not rely on changing halfway around the corner. Learning to maximise something different takes time, which in fairness, most people probably don't get on a standard 30 min test drive with salesperson present. I can understand why a short test, stuck in Normal mode would leave someone uninspired!
Suffice to say, a new 220 has been ordered in the same spec as the article car, and the R26 will be going. I can't give a higher commendation than this. Also, to the contributor who hasn't seen any in Aberdeen, but sees STs everywhere, this is a positive to me - I like having something little less common. This has always been the case when comparing quantities of Fords to Renaults.
Edited by Robbo65 on Friday 22 July 08:08
Edited by Robbo65 on Friday 22 July 08:11
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