Discussion
ORD said:
J4CKO said:
So, purpose designed mid engined Supercar vs a hotted up One Series BMW ?
R8
The V8 is a supercar now? Last time I checked, it had a pretty uninspiring engine and wasn't terribly fast R8
I have driven one and it did feel a bit gutless until you got it going but it was by no means slow, it is as quick as the BMW, I think there is a bottom of one division, top of another thing going on, it does 0-100 in just under ten, sure an AMG A45 with a remap would be more accelerative but they cost 45 grand anyway.
Nothing wrong with the BMW, but I would take the R8, dont think if bought right either would depreciate much
I'm a big BMW fan, but I love the R8, even in V8 form. That said, I don't really understand your dilemma. It's great to be able to afford the 993 Turbo and one of these choices, but it doesn't seem that you do huge mileage. I don't either, so I run my V12V as my daily driver. I've done 21000 miles in it. I don't feel the need to get a daily driver the way the OP does.
Nedzilla said:
I wonder why that is? M3s have always sold by the truck load over here. Theyre a great car too by all accounts.
The 1M was supposed to be a low volume test to see if the market would be receptive to a smaller M car, it proved massively more popular than expected, but BMW UK decided to stick to their original order.It's still a limited production car, and holds it's value as such.
It really comes down to what you need the car for. All weather driving and looks, the R8 wins. It also has a better ride, go for the manual as the auto is slow and dated. Prices are holding steady, only affected by mileage and age it seems.
The 1M has four seats and a boot, the looks are not to everyone's taste and its tail happy in the wet.
1M prices have be slowly rising and are still close to new list price. The gamble is how the M2 release will effect it.
As always drive both and make your own mind up.
The 1M has four seats and a boot, the looks are not to everyone's taste and its tail happy in the wet.
1M prices have be slowly rising and are still close to new list price. The gamble is how the M2 release will effect it.
As always drive both and make your own mind up.
J4CKO said:
I think the 1M is marginally quicker in a straight line, I wonder what they would be like respectively on a circuit ?
Well as much as I hate the focus on 'ring times for road cars, the R8 V8 appears to be eight seconds faster around there than the 1M. To my mind the R8 is in a different league to the 1M to drive; there's just no comparison between a (very good) pumped up 3-series/1-series hybrid thing and a mid-engined mini-supercar. I'd probably still take the 1M if I had a 930 in the garage for fun. Of the cars the OP mentions, I'd have the R8 as an only car but probably the BMW and Porsche if I was going to run two.
Edited by kambites on Monday 27th July 11:19
Yeah, my thoughts entirely.
Must irk V8 R8 owners when they are told their cars are slow all the time, like its a 1.4 A1 or something, it will do 187 mph, 0-60 in 4.5 and 100 in 9.8.
It isnt like you are going to have to watch out for the odd well driven Honda Jazz is it ? a remapped Golf R might be on par, a Nissan GTR will annihilate it but as a package, what a car.
It looks fantastic to my eyes, they are well made and don't seem to be problematic, its fast enough for most, you wont lose loads in depreciation, it will do 20 mpg, servicing isnt ruinous.
Must irk V8 R8 owners when they are told their cars are slow all the time, like its a 1.4 A1 or something, it will do 187 mph, 0-60 in 4.5 and 100 in 9.8.
It isnt like you are going to have to watch out for the odd well driven Honda Jazz is it ? a remapped Golf R might be on par, a Nissan GTR will annihilate it but as a package, what a car.
It looks fantastic to my eyes, they are well made and don't seem to be problematic, its fast enough for most, you wont lose loads in depreciation, it will do 20 mpg, servicing isnt ruinous.
It sounds like you can't afford either and aren't particularly keen on either (otherwise you'd already have chosen which of the two totally different cars you preferred).
In those circumstances, I'd buy neither. Stick the money in the bank and hold onto it until there is a car within budget that really interests you?
In those circumstances, I'd buy neither. Stick the money in the bank and hold onto it until there is a car within budget that really interests you?
Piggylines said:
Sorry guys I'll check out.
Was looking for help.
Bad plan.
Sometimes this forum makes me sad. Seems people have a real problem with giving advice or being helpful in any way.Was looking for help.
Bad plan.
For me, it'd be the 1M. I NEVER see them on the road and know for a fact there are many more R8's out there than the BM. It is already an iconic M car (although not classed as a 'true M car' I think) and values are likely to only go up. I always keep tabs on prices and they've floated around 40k since the dawn of time it seems. Plus, it does have the added practicality, despite that not being too important in this comparison.
BM for me!
JockySteer said:
For me, it'd be the 1M. I NEVER see them on the road and know for a fact there are many more R8's out there than the BM.
I see one every day in the work car park. I'm not sure I'd actually notice one on the road though; yes they have significantly flared arches and a body kit but at a glance it's just another 1-series.
KFC said:
It sounds like you can't afford either and aren't particularly keen on either (otherwise you'd already have chosen which of the two totally different cars you preferred).
In those circumstances, I'd buy neither. Stick the money in the bank and hold onto it until there is a car within budget that really interests you?
In those circumstances, I'd buy neither. Stick the money in the bank and hold onto it until there is a car within budget that really interests you?
kambites said:
JockySteer said:
For me, it'd be the 1M. I NEVER see them on the road and know for a fact there are many more R8's out there than the BM.
I see one every day in the work car park. I'm not sure I'd actually notice one on the road though; yes they have significantly flared arches and a body kit but at a glance it's just another 1-series.
kambites said:
I'm not sure by what metric the FSI V8 is an uninspiring engine either - it's one of the best modern engines I've ever driven.
Now the BMW is a good example of an uninspiring engine, IMO.
Yeah, I thought it didnt do much low down but once you got some revs on the dial it sounded really good and pulled very nicely, if not in that other-worldly way that a 911 Turbo or similar does, its still 420 bhp but nearer in straight line speed to a normal 911, still quicker than 99 percent of cars on the road.Now the BMW is a good example of an uninspiring engine, IMO.
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