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J4CKO said:
Yeah, I thought it didnt do much low down but once you got some revs on the dial it sounded really good and pulled very nicely, if not in that other-worldly way that a 911 Turbo or similar does, its still 420 bhp but nearer in straight line speed to a normal 911, still quicker than 99 percent of cars on the road.
The lack of low-down shove is a positive for me. 
kambites said:
JockySteer said:
For me, it'd be the 1M. I NEVER see them on the road and know for a fact there are many more R8's out there than the BM.
I see one every day in the work car park. I'm not sure I'd actually notice one on the road though; yes they have significantly flared arches and a body kit but at a glance it's just another 1-series.
Can never understand why people get in a huff when someone is choosing a new car and his choices are quite different.They are obviously what the op likes so whats the problem?My next bike will be a slabside gsxr 1100 or a bmw 1100gs.Both are completely different but they are what I like so it does not matter.Anyway you should get an R8,you can always sell it if you think you made the wrong choice
Those 2 are about 35k - 40k
So if the importance is on a daily, low mileage (<20k) that doesn't lose much cash? 1M is the best bet. Considering the rest of the Garage (has anyone called Custard yet?) I'd throw in a C63 507. pretty much guaranteed to be a future classic or go mental and get a Z1.
Cheers
T1b
So if the importance is on a daily, low mileage (<20k) that doesn't lose much cash? 1M is the best bet. Considering the rest of the Garage (has anyone called Custard yet?) I'd throw in a C63 507. pretty much guaranteed to be a future classic or go mental and get a Z1.
Cheers
T1b
kambites said:
I'm not sure by what metric the FSI V8 is an uninspiring engine either - it's one of the best modern engines I've ever driven.
Now the BMW is a good example of an uninspiring engine, IMO.
Totally agree! Yes it's lacking in low down torque abit,I came from a tuned GTR which produced about 550 lbs/ft from 2800rpm but the way it spins to 8000rpm and the sound it makes above 6k rpm is simply glorious.Now the BMW is a good example of an uninspiring engine, IMO.
For the people who say it's lacking in performance,well maybe it is for a supercar but then it's not a supercar is it!!!
For me,it's just about right for road use. You can wring its neck through a few gears which is what it's all about without fearing too much for your license.
In the GTR for example,you couldn't stick your foot down for more than a couple of seconds before having to lift off which soon became very,very frustrating.
yonex said:
Early 4 seconds to 60, mid 12 second 1/4 mile 190 mph?
Just shy of a Gallardo. I guess that's a bit of a slug as well? You must have a very fast Cayman
A Cayman isn't a supercar. Nothing like it. Ain't even trying to be very fast - that's simply not the point of NA Porsches (except the GT3).Just shy of a Gallardo. I guess that's a bit of a slug as well? You must have a very fast Cayman
The V8 is a moderately fast sports car that looks like a supercar. Nothing wrong with that, but to call it a supercar is a bit silly given its modest pace.
ORD said:
A Cayman isn't a supercar. Nothing like it. Ain't even trying to be very fast - that's simply not the point of NA Porsches (except the GT3).
The V8 is a moderately fast sports car that looks like a supercar. Nothing wrong with that, but to call it a supercar is a bit silly given its modest pace.
I have to ask. Where do you define supercar performance to start? You're stating the R8 is moderately fast but GT3 very fast? Genuinely interested as by any measure it's performance is pretty strong.The V8 is a moderately fast sports car that looks like a supercar. Nothing wrong with that, but to call it a supercar is a bit silly given its modest pace.
Perhaps it's a bit of prejudice against the Audi? I personally think the R8 is a bargain mainly down to this weird perception of the brand.
yonex said:
I have to ask. Where do you define supercar performance to start? You're stating the R8 is moderately fast but GT3 very fast? Genuinely interested as by any measure it's performance is pretty strong.
Perhaps it's a bit of prejudice against the Audi? I personally think the R8 is a bargain mainly down to this weird perception of the brand.
GT3 is probably borderline. Anything slower than that definitely isn't a supercar. I dont think my definition of 'supercar' is unusual - a supercar has to be a lot faster than fast sports cars and performance cars.Perhaps it's a bit of prejudice against the Audi? I personally think the R8 is a bargain mainly down to this weird perception of the brand.
I don't care about brands. Audis are mostly horrendous, but the R8 is certainly an exception to that
yonex said:
Yes, I can see how a slower, less focused, weaker engined 2+2 911 is a safer option.
Safer? Simple point is that 2+2s are easier to sell to the majority of people. 2-seaters are seen as being impractical, I think, although the tiny seats in the 911 really aren't for actual use as seats! Not sure about 'less focussed' - the R8 is hardly a Lotus. I imagine it weighs more than a 911.
ORD said:
Safer? Simple point is that 2+2s are easier to sell to the majority of people. 2-seaters are seen as being impractical, I think, although the tiny seats in the 911 really aren't for actual use as seats!
They're fine for small children. I remember travelling in the back of a 911 when I was in my early teens - not the most comfortable but perfectly possible. I'd certainly never buy a 911 if I didn't need four seats (if nothing else because the Cayman/Boxster is a better car to drive) but there's not much which can compete with it as a driver's car with rear seats which are usable for children (the Evora's are hopeless).
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