Overtaking assist Camera set up ?

Overtaking assist Camera set up ?

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Stickyfinger

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Wednesday 29th July 2015
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aw51 121565 said:
Nice V6, by the way thumbup .
Thank you, its the only original one in the UK as well which caused a few "WTF-is that" moments at the DVLA and insurance brokers who had to add it to the system smile


Country B. roads can be a pain....a quick "squirt" overtake is what I miss round here so a short distance should be OK for a decent camera is my thinking.

A. roads of course, I hang back as it has plenty to go from far back without problems.

wst

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161 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Well. Learn something new every day.

That looks massively over complicated compared to shock & spring.

Whats the benefit of them?
Supreme comfort and the ability for the suspension to adapt to different road conditions. Remember though that this was released in 2005 so it was miles ahead of the cars today that have computer adjustable suspension (and it was ultimately evolved from the original hydropneumatic system that Citroen fitted to the Traction Avant's rear end in 1954, and to all 4 corners of the DS in 1955).

Stickyfinger

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Wednesday 29th July 2015
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wst said:
upreme comfort and the ability for the suspension to adapt to different road conditions. Remember though that this was released in 2005 so it was miles ahead of the cars today that have computer adjustable suspension (and it was ultimately evolved from the original hydropneumatic system that Citroen fitted to the Traction Avant's rear end in 1954, and to all 4 corners of the DS in 1955).
It is the most under rated automotive technology with a very undeserved "rep" from monkeys with dirty hands and a old spanner....I can lower my boot sill to 18 inches to load or hitch a trailer, can also select more ground clearance than a LandRover Disco for the next round of Somerset floods, the car lowers itself at speed on good roads and raises on rough tracks, and still I'm nice and comfy with talented handling at speed in "sports suspension" mode. Oh, and 600kg in the boot makes zero difference to ride height either smile

Good C5 Exclusives on a 10 plate are about 5K for a 2.o ltr Derv (160hp) with a ASIAN adaptive box in estate form, the most under priced tourer on the market.

Colin RedGriff

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257 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Stickyfinger said:
DannyScene said:
Have you looked at the SJCAM SJ4000 instead of the gopro? I bought one for about £60 and it is probably on par with my mates gopro
Do you know if that can hook up with Live view without lag to a Samsung (or like) phone ? or does it have to be a separate monitor.

(I have emailed the makers as well)

Thanks bud


Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 29th July 17:36
I've got an SJCAM 4000 you can connect between the camera and phone using WiFI. There is an free app that lets you view the feed from the camera. There is a slight lag between the camera and screen but not sure how you can measure it

Stickyfinger

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Any chance you could test it for me ?....the camera was on my list but I am unsure about the lag, maybe, pretty please, kiss kiss smile

saaby93

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178 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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aw51 121565 said:
Nice V6, by the way thumbup .
yes
I had to check it out
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/citroen/c5/saloo...
carbuyer said:
But it has been on sale for a while, so it’s still fairly good for Citroen that the C5 placed 139th in the top 150 cars in the 2013 Auto Express Driver Power customer satisfaction survey.
scratchchin

Stickyfinger

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Been driving them since the Mk1...always with Hydro Suspension and not those silly coiled spring things first used in the Magic Roundabout. They have been great for me, now I am on the latest type and can not reconcile the cons they list at all. In fact I was driving next doors new Audi a4 estate for two weeks (he was ill and needed to be taken to hospital every day), horrid thing that was so bleeding uncomfortable on anything but hyper smooth tarmac....nasty every day !

Funny how that review does not even mention the suspension options ?.....I don't think they did anything other than a cut a paste job, you can tell, in fact I would bet who ever wrote that has never driven one with liquid and gas smile

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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wst said:
upreme comfort and the ability for the suspension to adapt to different road conditions. Remember though that this was released in 2005 so it was miles ahead of the cars today that have computer adjustable suspension (and it was ultimately evolved from the original hydropneumatic system that Citroen fitted to the Traction Avant's rear end in 1954, and to all 4 corners of the DS in 1955).
thumbup

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Stickyfinger said:
Been driving them since the Mk1...always with Hydro Suspension and not those silly coiled spring things first used in the Magic Roundabout. They have been great for me, now I am on the latest type and can not reconcile the cons they list at all. In fact I was driving next doors new Audi a4 estate for two weeks (he was ill and needed to be taken to hospital every day), horrid thing that was so bleeding uncomfortable on anything but hyper smooth tarmac....nasty every day !

Funny how that review does not even mention the suspension options ?.....I don't think they did anything other than a cut a paste job, you can tell, in fact I would bet who ever wrote that has never driven one with liquid and gas smile
That must be the most positive spin ever written about a car placed 139 in 150
What did they say about the car placed 138

Stickyfinger

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saaby93 said:
That must be the most positive spin ever written about a car placed 139 in 150
What did they say about the car placed 138
I don't care about reviews/lists that are made up......just go by my own personal experience which is long and extensive over the many years. Hey I benefit when you believe those "lists", my cars cost me less.....so thank you and feel free to keep buying over priced BMW's and Audi's that shake your teeth, cheers it is kind of you.

Even WhatCar talk total rubbish
[quote] and ride comfort on top-end models is poor.
not laughed as much for some time.

Try reading one that was written by someone who did drive one ...http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/citroen/c5/performance

Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 29th July 21:53

thegreenhell

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219 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Stickyfinger said:
Looking to set up a overtaking/whats coming viewer....I drive a lot in the EU and also own a left hooker (fun) car in the UK.

I was thinking of a "action" cam feeding the view to a Android (Samsung) phone

any advice other than the £300+ on the GoPro type ?

Cheers
Action cameras typically all have wide angle lenses, which when combined with your little phone screen will make oncoming cars appear about two pixels wide at the distance you'll need to be able to see them for a safe overtake. Even if you can see the car on your screen it will be next to impossible to judge its speed and distance.

Stickyfinger

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Yep....that is one of my concerns however I can if needed us a 5 inch Tablet, hence not wishing to chuck much money at it, if it does not work I will still have a good(ish) dash cam.

The MOBIUS seem to offer a choice of lens....


thegreenhell said:
Action cameras typically all have wide angle lenses, which when combined with your little phone screen will make oncoming cars appear about two pixels wide at the distance you'll need to be able to see them for a safe overtake. Even if you can see the car on your screen it will be next to impossible to judge its speed and distance.

Doofus

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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Stickyfinger said:
Looking to set up a overtaking/whats coming viewer....I drive a lot in the EU and also own a left hooker (fun) car in the UK.

I was thinking of a "action" cam feeding the view to a Android (Samsung) phone

any advice other than the £300+ on the GoPro type ?

Cheers
I think you'll find that they are illegal in most of Europe. You have to use your windows to see where you're going, not a telly.

I know, right?

lostkiwi

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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thegreenhell said:
Stickyfinger said:
Looking to set up a overtaking/whats coming viewer....I drive a lot in the EU and also own a left hooker (fun) car in the UK.

I was thinking of a "action" cam feeding the view to a Android (Samsung) phone

any advice other than the £300+ on the GoPro type ?

Cheers
Action cameras typically all have wide angle lenses, which when combined with your little phone screen will make oncoming cars appear about two pixels wide at the distance you'll need to be able to see them for a safe overtake. Even if you can see the car on your screen it will be next to impossible to judge its speed and distance.
^^^^^^
Absolutely this. To be effective and safe you need something without a wide angle lens. Very few action cams have that ability.
Another thing to bear in mind is that as the lens becomes less narrow the effect of vibration increases so ideally you'll need image stabilisation and I don't know of any action camera that does that as well as a standard lens view.

You could try a compact digital with WiFi such as the Panasonic GF6 (Sony do equivalents) but that makes it bulky and expensive and they eat batteries.

Stickyfinger

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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uugh ?....you saying I cannot watch EastEnders whilst driving ?.....dame those lefties/safety freaks smile



Doofus said:
I think you'll find that they are illegal in most of Europe. You have to use your windows to see where you're going, not a telly.

I know, right?