We we going to see larger parking spaces?

[Nedzilla]

oyster said:

Nedzilla said:

I always park in parent and child or the disabled bays providing there is plenty available which there is always about 20 spare at my local sainsburys.
The doors on my car are very long and it is just about impossible to get out if there is someone next to me in a regular parking space......that and there's less chance of careless fkers damaging my car and before anyone starts I honestly couldn't give a fk!

I'd happily let my 2 year old have a play with a trolley near your car in such a scenario.... oooops.

Don't have a go at me,have a go at the people at which this thread is directed and tell them to make bigger bloody parking spaces then I won't need to!

[Foliage]

I design car parks,

Car parking spaces are a standard size, 2.4m x 4.8m. That wont be changing any time soon & will likely never change. They have been the same size since the 70s, during metrification their was a lot of work done on standardising sizes in the construction industry.

I find that cars have got bigger (they shouldn't have) & people are getting lazier (hence my amusement at the parent and child parking thread), and car parks are having to be designed with more complicated entry and exit routes in order to keep out large undesirable vehicles (you all know what im referring to)

If you don't want to use a car park stump up the cash to have your shopping delivered etc.

[Mr Gear]

Ozzie Osmond said:

It sounds as though some people on here would buy a house by the railway line and then complain about the noise of the trains!!

Buy a car which fits the world around you. Don't buy a huge truck and then start complaining!

Precisely. When I buy a car I make sure it suits my needs. If you buy a big car and then complain about the size of parking spaces you only have yourself to blame.

[redddraggon]

Foliage said:

I find that cars have got bigger (they shouldn't have) & people are getting lazier (hence my amusement at the parent and child parking thread), and car parks are having to be designed with more complicated entry and exit routes in order to keep out large undesirable vehicles (you all know what im referring to)

So that's the reasoning by the stupid road into my local Tesco? Most Tesco shoppers seem incapable of managing the hairpin!

[flibbage0]

Slightly related, has anyone tried parking in the Brighton Marina car park? (The multi storey one)
The spaces are OK, a bit tight.

However the entrance/exit 90 degree turns and it's just ridiculously tight

[Swampy1982]

RB Will said:

yeah cos I'm 5 stone lighter than I used to be!

In which case I would like to personally thank you for no longer denting my car when you exit yours for any other reason than bloated modern car door widths...

[Timbo_S2]

redddraggon said:

So that's the reasoning by the stupid road into my local Tesco? Most Tesco shoppers seem incapable of managing the hairpin!

No, that hairpin will be to take account of the level difference between the road and the car park. Look at the retaining wall along the entrance road...

[Pickled]

flibbage0 said:

Slightly related, has anyone tried parking in the Brighton Marina car park? (The multi storey one)
The spaces are OK, a bit tight.

However the entrance/exit 90 degree turns and it's just ridiculously tight

Yeah had fun negotiating the up/down ramps in my S Class, luckily it was midweek and empty so plenty of room to take a wide swing, wouldn't fancy it so much if it was packed, plenty of evidence of people hitting the sides.

[Mr Gear]

Pickled said:

flibbage0 said:

Slightly related, has anyone tried parking in the Brighton Marina car park? (The multi storey one)
The spaces are OK, a bit tight.

However the entrance/exit 90 degree turns and it's just ridiculously tight

Yeah had fun negotiating the up/down ramps in my S Class, luckily it was midweek and empty so plenty of room to take a wide swing, wouldn't fancy it so much if it was packed, plenty of evidence of people hitting the sides.

I had an extremely annoying experience in there once. Not the car park's fault, I could get my car down there no problem, but the blonde bint in the Range Rover in front of me had to 3-point-turn every single ramp, and made an utter meal out of it. I don't know how long it took to exit, but it felt like I wasted half a day waiting for her to piss about.

[Europa1]

philmots said:

I'd happily pay double and have a spot twice the width.

Only place I've ever been with decent standard spots is Costco.

New Sainsbury's get double lines too, I think the space between the lines may even be slightly more narrow but the width between make the actual gap the same as normal, I think it encourages people to park central to the spot. Seems to work.

Yes, you'd think so, wouldn't you? But here in Cambridge we have a special breed of f$%^tard....









And the absolute, world class, gold plated cocksocket...

[Caruso]

Car parks should have big spaces at the outer reaches of the car park so that people with big or 'precious' cars can park them safely.

[dcb]

Pickled said:

Yeah had fun negotiating the up/down ramps in my S Class, luckily it was midweek and empty so plenty of room to take a wide swing, wouldn't fancy it so much if it was packed, plenty of evidence of people hitting the sides.

Indeed - a strong indication the car park owners need to rework the ramps
for easier access.

One of the worst features of the XJ8 I used to own
was how hard it was to park into smallish spaces.
16 foot land yacht.

I gave up and got a smaller car, the 5 series.

Then I gave up even more and got a 3 series.

Please note prev gen 5 series only 10 cm longer than then current 3 series.

I'll be in a 1 series soon ;->

[zebra]

There are arrange of reasons why spaces will need to get bigger in the future.

Legislation and the nanny state expects greater safety measures which has made cars grow, however the biggest issue is that humans are continually getting taller/wider through generations which demands cars increase their internal space.

[jmorgan]

Caruso said:

Car parks should have big spaces at the outer reaches of the car park so that people with big or 'precious' cars can park them safely.

Just one, so we can watch them fight over it.

[shake n bake]

sjg said:

Why should spaces get bigger? Why can't people buy smaller cars again? Why should every public car park be able to accommodate a row of 2m wide, 5m long oversized cars?

Tell me an equivalent car from the 70s that its modern day cousin is the same size as?

What a stupid thing to say, even small things like clios have grown massively in the past 15 years, try a cortina vs a new mondeo.

[Mr Gear]

So don't buy a Mondeo. Simple. I don't know why some people find this concept so hard to grasp.

[omniflow]

GravelMachineGun said:

the space what I need to try and get out of is so small that it becomes useless if I needed to walk around to my boot with something I bought (assuming I'd reverse in).

This is something I see people doing every week, and I really just don't understand WHY they do it. If you're going shopping, and you know before you park that you're going to have several large heavy bags that you will need to put into the boot of your car, why on earth would you reverse into the parking space and make the boot of your car inaccessible for all practical purposes. It seems to me that people are incapable of adjusting their default behaviour to cope with specific circumstances.

[SidJames]

silverfoxcc said:

Herringbone parking is the way to go
Easier to get in and out, and no nutters coming the other way cutting across you to get in a space.

Might lose 3/4 spaces per row but how often does a car park get really crammed?

Agree. in car parks of sufficient size wouldn#t you be able to reduce "aisle" width in order to recover that 3/4 space?

[Dracoro]

Cars have grown on the outside, however they haven't particularly grown inside. The size in exterior growth is for safety, sound deadening etc.

So if you needed the space/practicality of a Golf (for example) 15 years ago, the equivalent is probably still a Golf now.

[Dracoro]

Foliage said:

I design car parks,

Car parking spaces are a standard size, 2.4m x 4.8m. That wont be changing any time soon & will likely never change. They have been the same size since the 70s, during metrification their was a lot of work done on standardising sizes in the construction industry.

I find that cars have got bigger (they shouldn't have) & people are getting lazier (hence my amusement at the parent and child parking thread), and car parks are having to be designed with more complicated entry and exit routes in order to keep out large undesirable vehicles (you all know what im referring to)

If you don't want to use a car park stump up the cash to have your shopping delivered etc.

Out of interest, why do you use a standard from the 70s and not the 50/60s when everyone was running aroun in Austin 7s, minis etc.

The "standard" size was based on facilitating most typical family cars of the time (such as Escorts, Cortinas, Granadas etc. etc) so today's standard should be based on typical family cars now (Focus/Mondeos/etc.).

Cars have moved with the times (needing to be bigger for safety/sound deadening and so on), many car parks designs/standards simply haven't moved with the times.