RE: ARES Performance: Bahar's next move
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Can see this doing well for him. Think this is where he is comfortable... middle manning some expensive leather on to already (engineered and produced) expensive cars. He was no good at actually directing the production of exotic cars, especially at lotus where I think his brand of schleb tinsel and trinketry is a million miles from what a normal lotus customer wants (if indeed they do have any customers left!). So let someone else do that and just provide some extra icing for those with the means.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 31st July 13:05
BelfastBoy said:
Is there even any need for this sort of service? Surely all the regular high-end manufacturers offer ridiculous "we'll turn a blind eye, say nothing and take your money" customisation options as a matter of course these days anyway?
spot on.I walked past the place yesterday afternoon - totally by chance on way with my youngest to the Royal Institution and a lecture on the history of the spacesuit - far more worthwhile.
This surely is the epitome of style over substance?
BelfastBoy said:
Is there even any need for this sort of service? Surely all the regular high-end manufacturers offer ridiculous "we'll turn a blind eye, say nothing and take your money" customisation options as a matter of course these days anyway?
I suspect it's the 'we can do almost anything' allure: OEMs will be limited to an extent by the need, with warranties and such like in mind, to test all available mods to the nth degree. Aftermarket atelierism (er...) presumably doesn't need to do all that, so they can offer much more. Such as diamond-encrusted steering wheels, fine china heater knobs and so on.WokkaWokka said:
Fair play to the bloke looks like he's having a good career and making money out of the rich.
If you don't like his business or customer base then keep it to yourself.
You want Positivefeedbackonly Heads. This site relies on forum disputes to drive up traffic for advertising revenue.If you don't like his business or customer base then keep it to yourself.
What he's doing now seems very much like making money out of people who don't know how to spend it, and I can't fault his selection of rich idiots as customers.
GranCab said:
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I seriously doubt that nowadays there are many Greeks around Picadilly with a spare €500,000 to spend on a custom Huracan!
It is quite depressing how much the super rich have to be over indulged and pampered because they have so much money it is difficult to get them to part with more of their pile.
Personally I think if DB had stayed on as Chairman at Lotus it would have gone pretty well. Clearly Gales is a hands on and details man but Bahr had a great, if not somewhat overly ambitious, plan for Lotus.
Personally I think if DB had stayed on as Chairman at Lotus it would have gone pretty well. Clearly Gales is a hands on and details man but Bahr had a great, if not somewhat overly ambitious, plan for Lotus.
I disagree. Bahar over-reached Lotus in spades. He was committing the company to products and development they could never have produced, killing the things which made money and completely failing to understand the brand.
Brands can be moved but only slowly. Under him Lotus would be dead by now.
Simon
Brands can be moved but only slowly. Under him Lotus would be dead by now.
Simon
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