RE: ARES Performance: Bahar's next move

RE: ARES Performance: Bahar's next move

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TartanPaint

2,981 posts

138 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Jean-Marc Gales is going to make a fortune when he sets up a company that returns these disasters to factory spec.

Otispunkmeyer

12,557 posts

154 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Can see this doing well for him. Think this is where he is comfortable... middle manning some expensive leather on to already (engineered and produced) expensive cars. He was no good at actually directing the production of exotic cars, especially at lotus where I think his brand of schleb tinsel and trinketry is a million miles from what a normal lotus customer wants (if indeed they do have any customers left!). So let someone else do that and just provide some extra icing for those with the means.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 31st July 13:05

jason61c

5,978 posts

173 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Why the hell do piston heads give this man free advertising?

BelfastBoy

779 posts

159 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Is there even any need for this sort of service? Surely all the regular high-end manufacturers offer ridiculous "we'll turn a blind eye, say nothing and take your money" customisation options as a matter of course these days anyway?

WokkaWokka

698 posts

138 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Fair play to the bloke looks like he's having a good career and making money out of the rich.

If you don't like his business or customer base then keep it to yourself.

dbroughton

304 posts

213 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Lets face it, we all knew after the Swiss Beatz debacle that Bahar wasn't a car guy. He is a luxury goods guy how was more likely to deliver a lotus Elise Louis Vuitton edition than the next great British sports car.


dukeboy749r

2,539 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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BelfastBoy said:
Is there even any need for this sort of service? Surely all the regular high-end manufacturers offer ridiculous "we'll turn a blind eye, say nothing and take your money" customisation options as a matter of course these days anyway?
spot on.

I walked past the place yesterday afternoon - totally by chance on way with my youngest to the Royal Institution and a lecture on the history of the spacesuit - far more worthwhile.

This surely is the epitome of style over substance?

richardaucock

204 posts

162 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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BelfastBoy said:
Is there even any need for this sort of service? Surely all the regular high-end manufacturers offer ridiculous "we'll turn a blind eye, say nothing and take your money" customisation options as a matter of course these days anyway?
I suspect it's the 'we can do almost anything' allure: OEMs will be limited to an extent by the need, with warranties and such like in mind, to test all available mods to the nth degree. Aftermarket atelierism (er...) presumably doesn't need to do all that, so they can offer much more. Such as diamond-encrusted steering wheels, fine china heater knobs and so on.

405dogvan

5,326 posts

264 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Thing is - don't manufacturers all offer this stuff from the factory now? High-end super-bespoke options for the really rich??

So his market are the relatively poor people who buy other people's cast-offs - which may already be hideously-specced - so perhaps he's SAVING them ;0

jqhn80

39 posts

115 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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GranCab said:
Πόσα χρήματα θέλετε να περάσετε;
hehe

I seriously doubt that nowadays there are many Greeks around Picadilly with a spare €500,000 to spend on a custom Huracan! tongue out

diluculophile

130 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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If they don't want to mess around with the dynamics of the cars, I'd suggest not putting cartwheels on them.

Seriously, that S-Class looks like it should be pulled along by horses.

Does being hideously rich automatically remove any semblance of taste? I hope to find out one day...

GranCab

2,902 posts

145 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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jqhn80 said:


GranCab said:
??sa ???µata ???ete ?a pe??sete;
hehe

I seriously doubt that nowadays there are many Greeks around Picadilly with a spare €500,000 to spend on a custom Huracan! tongue out
There are a lot of Greek Euros in the UK now .... buying property in London mostly smile

Greg_D

6,542 posts

245 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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jason61c said:
Why the hell do piston heads give this man free advertising?
who says it was free!!! lol

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

264 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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WokkaWokka said:
Fair play to the bloke looks like he's having a good career and making money out of the rich.

If you don't like his business or customer base then keep it to yourself.
You want Positivefeedbackonly Heads. This site relies on forum disputes to drive up traffic for advertising revenue.

What he's doing now seems very much like making money out of people who don't know how to spend it, and I can't fault his selection of rich idiots as customers.

jamespink

1,218 posts

203 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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IMI A said:
Quality of workmanship looks high to be fair but styling so ugly/vulgar
But then so is his market... and its they that have the money...

jamespink

1,218 posts

203 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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GranCab said:
jqhn80 said:


GranCab said:
??sa ???µata ???ete ?a pe??sete;
hehe

I seriously doubt that nowadays there are many Greeks around Picadilly with a spare €500,000 to spend on a custom Huracan! tongue out
There are a lot of Greek Euros in the UK now .... buying property in London mostly smile
That's the whole point of all this. London (thanks Dave) is the centre for people that have earned/saved/embezzled gazillions and have already bought every trinket they can think of, now up pops your man. Brilliant! 21s or 22s... Love it!

smilo996

2,755 posts

169 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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It is quite depressing how much the super rich have to be over indulged and pampered because they have so much money it is difficult to get them to part with more of their pile.

Personally I think if DB had stayed on as Chairman at Lotus it would have gone pretty well. Clearly Gales is a hands on and details man but Bahr had a great, if not somewhat overly ambitious, plan for Lotus.

Frimley111R

15,537 posts

233 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Word 2: Lotus banghead

simonrockman

6,843 posts

254 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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I disagree. Bahar over-reached Lotus in spades. He was committing the company to products and development they could never have produced, killing the things which made money and completely failing to understand the brand.

Brands can be moved but only slowly. Under him Lotus would be dead by now.

Simon

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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So, he's taken the Mansory business model and transplanted it to Modena...