A clown takes a pratfall

[anonymous-user]

It's interesting that the cam man has clipped the shot from rear to front cam at 11 seconds.

IMO there was plenty of room after the golf which is where the overtake took place.

[Charliecloud]

Take a look at all his other uploads - He is either very unlucky or .......

[Artey]

RenOHH said:

Artey said:

Now if I was to give another car 1 metre of space I would most likely end up in a ditch. How does that work. Also when mamils filter they don't seem to be bothered being 0.5mm away from cars

Never been riding a bicycle and had a car suddenly whizz past at 5 times the speed you're travelling, 6 inches from your handlebars have you? If the wind is blowing, the cyclist can't hear anything but wind. The cyclist doesn't know the car is coming, and it's effing terrifying. That's why you need to leave space when you pass a bike, and it's a totally different thing to a bike filtering close to stationary cars.

But as I have said before, the pass in this video is not that bad.

Edit: Imagine you are jogging down a shared pathway and cycleway at 6mph, and a cyclist travelling at 30mph passes your right elbow with a 6 inch gap. You had no idea it was coming, it just happens. You probably wouldn't enjoy that happening a number of times per day. Both of you had the right to use the area, and there is lots more width on the path for the cyclist to give you more space. You'd probably like it if the cyclist was a bit more courteous to you as the slower moving object.

Edited by RenOHH on Sunday 2nd August 22:24

What is it with modern men my gawd, I've been cycling since 80's and been passed by cars while sitting close to the kerb, cars which were closer to me than the one in OP's videos and I was never ever scared of my surroundings. Can I suggest that if you (not you you but you as public) are scared of the road and if you can't hear cars approaching from behind you shouldn't cycle? Same as horse riders who expect cars to slow down to 0.5 mph while being passed because their horses are easily spooked. Such horses don't belong on public road.

Also, as I said I've been cycling for ages and have only recently been made aware of this entitlement movement where cyclists are somehow entitled to everything because they save the planet. I wasn't aware of this and I don't want to be aware of this because this entitlement is exactly what antagonises drivers. I've never had any trouble with drivers maybe because I "live and let live" which basically means that I let drivers pass always when there is no need for me to be in the middle of the road. I don't know who came up with the idea that one should always stay away from kerbs, stay in the middle of the lane enforce your position nonsense. It doesn't help anyone and it pisses many people off.

[mybrainhurts]

swerni said:

mybrainhurts said:

swerni said:

mybrainhurts said:

Wonder if he'll post up the video when he creates an incident with an unmarked police car?

Not sure the occupants of an unmarked police car would threaten to kill and try to assault a cyclist.

But hey, it's a strange world out there.

Here, have this week's Statin' The Bleedin' Obvious Award...

I'm suggesting plod would have something to say about his deliberate provocation.

Being told the overtook too closely?
I'm sure they would have better skills and understanding of the highway code, wouldn't you?

You don't seem to have a grasp of Mr uphillfreewher's modus operandi. It's a bit like your first response to my post...

[Blakewater]

Johnnytheboy said:

Ghibli said:

http://youtu.be/cawXdgL5cwg

Does anyone have any views on this ^ ?

Vandalism.

If that's ok then it's ok for anyone to deface signs they don't agree with.

I assume it would be ok to rip yellow jackets with arsy messages off horse riders' backs?

It shows a lack of willingness to look at his own actions and improve his roadcraft and a desire to do what he likes and push blame onto other people when things go wrong. Does he remove mind the step/wet floor/mind your head signs as well?

[whoami]

Charliecloud said:

Take a look at all his other uploads - He is either very unlucky or .......

It's remarkable, isn't it?

[mybrainhurts]

whoami said:

Charliecloud said:

Take a look at all his other uploads - He is either very unlucky or .......

It's remarkable, isn't it?

Any footage of supermarket trolley problems?

[Welshbeef]

Why doesn't he have those plastic add ons which make the bike wider it will force cars to give him more room problem solved or they damage their cars passing.

[Mave]

Artey said:

Also, as I said I've been cycling for ages and have only recently been made aware of this entitlement movement where cyclists are somehow entitled to everything because they save the planet.

Where have you seen evidence of this movement? The only people I've ever heard referring to cyclists being entitled to something because they are "saving the planet" are motorists taking offence that cyclists want motorists to display the road manners that represent competent driving.

[Blakewater]

Mave said:

Artey said:

Also, as I said I've been cycling for ages and have only recently been made aware of this entitlement movement where cyclists are somehow entitled to everything because they save the planet.

Where have you seen evidence of this movement? The only people I've ever heard referring to cyclists being entitled to something because they are "saving the planet" are motorists taking offence that cyclists want motorists to display the road manners that represent competent driving.

I don't know about it being a movement, but things like the post above, taking the warning signs off the back of large vehicles, don't help. Yes, drivers need to look out for cyclists and ultimately better infrastructure needs to be provided, but is this cyclist saying that in the meantime he and other cyclists can freely enter the blind spots of drivers and not take responsibility when they get squashed? It's an odd message to be giving and I don't see the logic.

[james_gt3rs]

m3jappa said:

That was brilliant, haha I really enjoyed it

Shouting "put your mouth shut" was great too

I've watched it about 10 times now and this bit still has me in hysterics

[Hungrymc]

swerni said:

Being told the overtook too closely?
I'm sure they would have better skills and understanding of the highway code, wouldn't you?

Everyone has to exercise judgment - so I'd say you're being a touch naive if you believe the emergency services never error.

But I agree with you that the pass was poor, it wasn't appalling, it wouldn't be enough to upset me, but it wasn't the best.
And the drivers reaction was also way out of order. Not defending him at all.

The cyclist... What did you think of his riding during the chase? When he goes through the left turn?
I'd say that was the worst piece of road craft in the video. And plenty has been said about the baiting and then vigilante approach. To his credit, he's clearly not violent, just aggressive and obnoxious.

If you take a balanced view, you can only conclude that they are a pair of dheads.

[anonymous-user]

Mave said:

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St John Smythe said:

Mave said:

St John Smythe said:

Unless you have that exact model camera its's impossible to tell. Things can appear closer/further away dependent on the type of lens.

I disagree. If you look at the rear view at about 8 seconds you can judge how much space there is by scaling from the width of the car. At about 11 seconds you can see what proportion of that gap is to the left of the camera, and what proportion is to the right. I'd estimate at most 50cm from the camera to the car.

You're estimating. Which means you don't really know.

No measurement is 100% accurate, except the one that defines it. Everything else is an estimate.

The comment you responded to suggested the pass was too close. What distance do you think is too close? Because I am confident that pass was too close by my definition.

Without being there at the time it's impossible to tell.

[colonel c]

Purity14 said:

Love it.

Blanking out the ford badge on a Focus.

[Jagmanv12]

TheInternet said:

Jagmanv12 said:

I stay as close as possible to parked cars so as not to inconvenience other road users.

Driving or cycling? The consequences are rather different depending on the mode of transport.

Both. Was on a bike regularly for 8 years.

[StottyEvo]

Jagmanv12 said:

TheInternet said:

Jagmanv12 said:

I stay as close as possible to parked cars so as not to inconvenience other road users.

Driving or cycling? The consequences are rather different depending on the mode of transport.

Both. Was on a bike regularly for 8 years.

I did the same when I cycled, had no problems.

A little courtesy goes a long way, from both sides

[Jagmanv12]

Artey said:

What is it with modern men my gawd, I've been cycling since 80's and been passed by cars while sitting close to the kerb, cars which were closer to me than the one in OP's videos and I was never ever scared of my surroundings. Can I suggest that if you (not you you but you as public) are scared of the road and if you can't hear cars approaching from behind you shouldn't cycle? Same as horse riders who expect cars to slow down to 0.5 mph while being passed because their horses are easily spooked. Such horses don't belong on public road.

Also, as I said I've been cycling for ages and have only recently been made aware of this entitlement movement where cyclists are somehow entitled to everything because they save the planet. I wasn't aware of this and I don't want to be aware of this because this entitlement is exactly what antagonises drivers. I've never had any trouble with drivers maybe because I "live and let live" which basically means that I let drivers pass always when there is no need for me to be in the middle of the road. I don't know who came up with the idea that one should always stay away from kerbs, stay in the middle of the lane enforce your position nonsense. It doesn't help anyone and it pisses many people off.

Excellent post.

Whilst we all know there are good and bad cyclists and drivers the vigilante cyclist is definitely a dhead. Antagonising drivers, chasing after them, mouthing off. One day he'll do it to the wrong person and will be laying in the road.

Removing the stickers is just plain stupid. Whilst I think H&S culture has gone too far, these stickers are a good idea because some cyclists need to be educated. Without these stickers the idiot cyclists will think it's ok to go down the left side of a vehicle.

[RicksAlfas]

Mave said:

Artey said:

Also, as I said I've been cycling for ages and have only recently been made aware of this entitlement movement where cyclists are somehow entitled to everything because they save the planet.

Where have you seen evidence of this movement? The only people I've ever heard referring to cyclists being entitled to something because they are "saving the planet" are motorists taking offence that cyclists want motorists to display the road manners that represent competent driving.

I'm with Artey on this one. I was a very keen road cyclist in the 80s and 90s and there was a completely different mentality back then than there is today. We had no helmets, Strava or Go Pros and we co-existed quite amicably with other road users. There was plenty of shouts of "car up" and "car down" so a group could sort itself out when a car approached, and this was usually acknowledged with a friendly wave from the driver. Back then cyclists did all they could to make life easier for the big, heavy, faster vehicle.

The current mentality is rather different in many cases, and it does seem a recent development. I'm not convinced it's a "save the planet entitlement" so much as an "aggressive stroppiness", backed up by some weirdly contradictory ideals reinforced by online forums. I fully appreciate the roads are much busier than they were, and that many drivers also suffer aggressive stroppiness, but I do think many cyclists these days suffer from the "I was right on my tombstone" mentality.

[TheFinners]

Seems to be a classic case of a knob on a bike meeting a knob in a car. Both are in the wrong, I'd say the car driver was more so than the cyclist (say 60:40) and both got way too worked up about it. The cyclist should have ignored it, or at most had a brief exchange of moaning when he caught up at the junction.

But then again the slow motion of the guy faceplanting is hilarious.

[kiseca]

TheFinners said:

Seems to be a classic case of a knob on a bike meeting a knob in a car. Both are in the wrong, I'd say the car driver was more so than the cyclist (say 60:40) and both got way too worked up about it. The cyclist should have ignored it, or at most had a brief exchange of moaning when he caught up at the junction.

But then again the slow motion of the guy faceplanting is hilarious.

What did the cyclist do wrong (I mean when he was being overtaken, not when he nearly collided with another cyclist, pedestrian and then chased someone down the road and encouraged them to chase him back)