A clown takes a pratfall
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Strawman said:
heebeegeetee said:
heebeegeetee said:
but I do quite strongly feel that the thug should not be allowed to drive.
1. I don't get this at all, what driving crimes has he committed? heebeegeetee said:
Mind you, though I say I don't care about the tit's films - he's struck gold with this one he really has, 40-carat comedy gold. This film is pure class and has really given me a good laugh.
2. Back in the day would you have visited Bedlam to laugh at the insane?Edited by Strawman on Wednesday 5th August 13:29
As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
2. They didn't deserve it. Numpties deserve everything.
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
walm said:
Sorry but trying to avoid a dooring doesn't make you a "self-centred tt".
Reading back on the thread someone local has said you can fit two cars down that road. Why can't you fit a cyclist and a car down that road ?If you want to defend this guy go for it, enjoy your cycling days, I hope they bring pleasure to you like they do this guy.
So you still haven't answered the question - how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
It's about sharing the road so that things go smoothly. The cyclist didn't, yet he could of. Had the driver not flipped out at the end the video would have been nothing.
Gaz. said:
1. bks he has, his assessment of you is spot on.
2. Your whining that no-one else condemns st driving is very much a case of not seeing the wood for the trees, this place is full of such posts.
3. If the prick on the bike was in a car, and he had chased another driver as fast as he could, nearly run over three people over and then confronted the first driver everyone would still have condemned his actions and I hope you would too (and you never know TVP might nick him for it). The fact that he is on a bicycle is irrelevant to many people in this topic, his method of transport does not excuse his actions.
1. Yes he has, he called me a cyclist. I'm not in that tribe.2. Your whining that no-one else condemns st driving is very much a case of not seeing the wood for the trees, this place is full of such posts.
3. If the prick on the bike was in a car, and he had chased another driver as fast as he could, nearly run over three people over and then confronted the first driver everyone would still have condemned his actions and I hope you would too (and you never know TVP might nick him for it). The fact that he is on a bicycle is irrelevant to many people in this topic, his method of transport does not excuse his actions.
2. My arse. When it comes to cyclists, all that disappears, and drivers can simply do no wrong. It doesn't matter how god-awful the driving might be, or the attitude of the driver, all of a sudden there's no such thing as a numpty. As this thread has firmly established, the cyclist is wrong if he rides in the door zone, he's in the wrong if he doesn't, and there's no fault on the driver who hits a cyclist.
3. And what is 'if' worth? Fact is, he'a harmless tit. Personally I couldn't give a kipper about him, the only think I know and care about is as a driver I would not have overtaken like that. (and I'm not the slightest bit interested in pages of discussion of widths and distance).
The *only* thing worth discusiing imo is that here we have a frothing monster exploding with rage over absolutely nothing, and there's a good chance he'll go on to hurt or kill. The cyclist ain't gonna do that.
walm said:
It's wrong.
Even a smallish car will have about a 1m wide door.
This shows two doors taking up AT LEAST 1,750mm.
The actual width of the two doors is clearly more than 1,750mm from the following picture:
Also how does hearing a car "make him an impatient motorist"?
Go and open a car door and measure how much room it takes. The two doors don't open as one. I do agree door space is needed just that some times you are better of not using it if it means you won't get hit by a car driving behind.Even a smallish car will have about a 1m wide door.
This shows two doors taking up AT LEAST 1,750mm.
The actual width of the two doors is clearly more than 1,750mm from the following picture:
Also how does hearing a car "make him an impatient motorist"?
If you are happy that a car won't overtake you on a road like that when you hear it coming up behind you, that's your choice.
heebeegeetee said:
1. He possibly hasn't, but is should be illegal to operate a heavy machine amongst the general populace when you're an aggressive, foul-mouthed, violent angry-at-the-world numpty. If it was up to me he'd be banned, and he'd stay banned until he can prove he's suitable to be in charge of such a machine. It would need psychiatric reports, a medical (he looks like he's a heart attack about to happen) and another driving test before I'd let him drive again.
As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
You sound a bit like him, I'm glad it's not up to you or any single individual who bases there judgements on a few minutes of youtube film.As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
heebeegeetee said:
1. He possibly hasn't, but is should be illegal to operate a heavy machine amongst the general populace when you're an aggressive, foul-mouthed, violent angry-at-the-world numpty. If it was up to me he'd be banned, and he'd stay banned until he can prove he's suitable to be in charge of such a machine. It would need psychiatric reports, a medical (he looks like he's a heart attack about to happen) and another driving test before I'd let him drive again.
As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
2. They didn't deserve it. Numpties deserve everything.
Was he angry before cam man turned up ? For all we know cam man could have been tapping on his window before this incedent.As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
2. They didn't deserve it. Numpties deserve everything.
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
walm said:
Sorry but trying to avoid a dooring doesn't make you a "self-centred tt".
Reading back on the thread someone local has said you can fit two cars down that road. Why can't you fit a cyclist and a car down that road ?If you want to defend this guy go for it, enjoy your cycling days, I hope they bring pleasure to you like they do this guy.
So you still haven't answered the question - how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
It's about sharing the road so that things go smoothly. The cyclist didn't, yet he could of. Had the driver not flipped out at the end the video would have been nothing.
heebeegeetee said:
The *only* thing worth discusiing imo is that here we have a frothing monster exploding with rage over absolutely nothing, and there's a good chance he'll go on to hurt or kill. The cyclist ain't gonna do that.
We don't know that yet, he is a bit suss. He has already shown he will poke his head into womens cars saying "You're on camera, but I won't report you heheheheheheh"It's all downhill from there.
Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.walm said:
Ghibli said:
Go and open a car door and measure how much room it takes. The two doors don't open as one.
Christ you are dim.Divide 1,750mm by two.
You will probably need a calculator.
Hint: it is more than 0.5m.
That's why you are wrong.
heebeegeetee said:
2. My arse. When it comes to cyclists, all that disappears, and drivers can simply do no wrong. It doesn't matter how god-awful the driving might be, or the attitude of the driver, all of a sudden there's no such thing as a numpty. As this thread has firmly established, the cyclist is wrong if he rides in the door zone, he's in the wrong if he doesn't, and there's no fault on the driver who hits a cyclist.
I think I've been reading a different thread, because I've mostly seen a lot of people calling the driver a , a prick or an ahole, and laughing quite hard at his roly poly attempt.Gaz. said:
My point exactly. Too busy being argumentative to see it though.
There's still pages and pages about cyclists, widths, gaps etc, which is completely missing the point imo. None of that is here nor there at all, imo.The only thing worth talking about, once we've stopped laughing, is why is a lunatic allowed to drive?
getawayturtle said:
We don't know that yet, he is a bit suss. He has already shown he will poke his head into womens cars saying "You're on camera, but I won't report you heheheheheheh"
It's all downhill from there.
To be fair, he has had some close shaves. I guess he would rather just go around wagging his finger like the cereal catcher.It's all downhill from there.
heebeegeetee said:
Gaz. said:
My point exactly. Too busy being argumentative to see it though.
There's still pages and pages about cyclists, widths, gaps etc, which is completely missing the point imo. None of that is here nor there at all, imo.The only thing worth talking about, once we've stopped laughing, is why is a lunatic allowed to drive?
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.So what exactly is it that you think he should have actually done in the seconds before the overtake, recognising that it is sensible for him to give cars enough distance to avoid being doored, and the motorist didn't give him time to pull towards the gap on the left?
Not what he was thinking about, what his motivation was, whether he was thinking about what to have for tea; but observations that the motorist could have had that would lead him to conclude that he was a self centred tt and therefore deserving of a close pass?
Edited by Mave on Wednesday 5th August 17:33
doogz said:
You don't? How do you manage that? As I said, visibility is crap out of my cat, so I regularly contort myself into daft positions to get a good look out the limited window area.
Wearing a cat as a hat is your problem. I find a fox fits better, the eyes are further apart :-) Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.So what exactly is it that you think he should have actually done in the seconds before the overtake, recognising that it is sensible for him to give cars enough distance to avoid being doored, and the motorist didn't give him time to pull towards the gap on the left?
Not what he was thinking about, what his motivation was, whether he was thinking about what to have for tea; but observations that the motorist could have had that would lead him to conclude that he was a self centred tt and therefore deserving of a close pass?
Edited by Mave on Wednesday 5th August 17:33
Why did the cyclist not allow extra room for the car he could here approaching from behind ?
How much room was there from the camera mounted on the lower part of his handle bar ?
How much more room should have the driver given him ?
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