A clown takes a pratfall

A clown takes a pratfall

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heebeegeetee

28,591 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Strawman said:
heebeegeetee said:
heebeegeetee said:
but I do quite strongly feel that the thug should not be allowed to drive.
1. I don't get this at all, what driving crimes has he committed?

heebeegeetee said:
Mind you, though I say I don't care about the tit's films - he's struck gold with this one he really has, 40-carat comedy gold. This film is pure class and has really given me a good laugh.
2. Back in the day would you have visited Bedlam to laugh at the insane?


Edited by Strawman on Wednesday 5th August 13:29
1. He possibly hasn't, but is should be illegal to operate a heavy machine amongst the general populace when you're an aggressive, foul-mouthed, violent angry-at-the-world numpty. If it was up to me he'd be banned, and he'd stay banned until he can prove he's suitable to be in charge of such a machine. It would need psychiatric reports, a medical (he looks like he's a heart attack about to happen) and another driving test before I'd let him drive again.

As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.

2. They didn't deserve it. Numpties deserve everything.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
walm said:
Sorry but trying to avoid a dooring doesn't make you a "self-centred tt".
Reading back on the thread someone local has said you can fit two cars down that road. Why can't you fit a cyclist and a car down that road ?
Irrespective of how much total width there is available, how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
When you ride around filming in the hope you will get a reaction rather than getting on with a trouble free life. That's what I call self centred.

If you want to defend this guy go for it, enjoy your cycling days, I hope they bring pleasure to you like they do this guy.
I have never defended the cyclist for chasing after the motorist, only for his right to avoid a dooring. At the point the motorist decided not to give much room, the cyclist was travelling in a straight line, at a constant speed, giving himself enough space to avoid a dooring.

So you still haven't answered the question - how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
Read above, the cyclist is more interested in calling a registration number out than making room. It may not be self centred to you but it is to me.

It's about sharing the road so that things go smoothly. The cyclist didn't, yet he could of. Had the driver not flipped out at the end the video would have been nothing.

heebeegeetee

28,591 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Gaz. said:
1. bks he has, his assessment of you is spot on.

2. Your whining that no-one else condemns st driving is very much a case of not seeing the wood for the trees, this place is full of such posts.

3. If the prick on the bike was in a car, and he had chased another driver as fast as he could, nearly run over three people over and then confronted the first driver everyone would still have condemned his actions and I hope you would too (and you never know TVP might nick him for it). The fact that he is on a bicycle is irrelevant to many people in this topic, his method of transport does not excuse his actions.
1. Yes he has, he called me a cyclist. I'm not in that tribe.

2. My arse. When it comes to cyclists, all that disappears, and drivers can simply do no wrong. It doesn't matter how god-awful the driving might be, or the attitude of the driver, all of a sudden there's no such thing as a numpty. As this thread has firmly established, the cyclist is wrong if he rides in the door zone, he's in the wrong if he doesn't, and there's no fault on the driver who hits a cyclist.

3. And what is 'if' worth? Fact is, he'a harmless tit. Personally I couldn't give a kipper about him, the only think I know and care about is as a driver I would not have overtaken like that. (and I'm not the slightest bit interested in pages of discussion of widths and distance).

The *only* thing worth discusiing imo is that here we have a frothing monster exploding with rage over absolutely nothing, and there's a good chance he'll go on to hurt or kill. The cyclist ain't gonna do that.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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walm said:
It's wrong.
Even a smallish car will have about a 1m wide door.
This shows two doors taking up AT LEAST 1,750mm.

The actual width of the two doors is clearly more than 1,750mm from the following picture:


Also how does hearing a car "make him an impatient motorist"?
Go and open a car door and measure how much room it takes. The two doors don't open as one. I do agree door space is needed just that some times you are better of not using it if it means you won't get hit by a car driving behind.

If you are happy that a car won't overtake you on a road like that when you hear it coming up behind you, that's your choice.

Strawman

6,463 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
1. He possibly hasn't, but is should be illegal to operate a heavy machine amongst the general populace when you're an aggressive, foul-mouthed, violent angry-at-the-world numpty. If it was up to me he'd be banned, and he'd stay banned until he can prove he's suitable to be in charge of such a machine. It would need psychiatric reports, a medical (he looks like he's a heart attack about to happen) and another driving test before I'd let him drive again.

As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.
You sound a bit like him, I'm glad it's not up to you or any single individual who bases there judgements on a few minutes of youtube film.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
1. He possibly hasn't, but is should be illegal to operate a heavy machine amongst the general populace when you're an aggressive, foul-mouthed, violent angry-at-the-world numpty. If it was up to me he'd be banned, and he'd stay banned until he can prove he's suitable to be in charge of such a machine. It would need psychiatric reports, a medical (he looks like he's a heart attack about to happen) and another driving test before I'd let him drive again.

As it is he's free to be angry at anything and everything until he has his heart attack at the wheel.

2. They didn't deserve it. Numpties deserve everything.
Was he angry before cam man turned up ? For all we know cam man could have been tapping on his window before this incedent.

walm

10,609 posts

201 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
Go and open a car door and measure how much room it takes. The two doors don't open as one.
Christ you are dim.

Divide 1,750mm by two.
You will probably need a calculator.

Hint: it is more than 0.5m.

That's why you are wrong.

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
walm said:
Sorry but trying to avoid a dooring doesn't make you a "self-centred tt".
Reading back on the thread someone local has said you can fit two cars down that road. Why can't you fit a cyclist and a car down that road ?
Irrespective of how much total width there is available, how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
When you ride around filming in the hope you will get a reaction rather than getting on with a trouble free life. That's what I call self centred.

If you want to defend this guy go for it, enjoy your cycling days, I hope they bring pleasure to you like they do this guy.
I have never defended the cyclist for chasing after the motorist, only for his right to avoid a dooring. At the point the motorist decided not to give much room, the cyclist was travelling in a straight line, at a constant speed, giving himself enough space to avoid a dooring.

So you still haven't answered the question - how does cycling to avoid a dooring make you a self centred tt?
Read above, the cyclist is more interested in calling a registration number out than making room. It may not be self centred to you but it is to me.

It's about sharing the road so that things go smoothly. The cyclist didn't, yet he could of. Had the driver not flipped out at the end the video would have been nothing.
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?

getawayturtle

3,560 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
The *only* thing worth discusiing imo is that here we have a frothing monster exploding with rage over absolutely nothing, and there's a good chance he'll go on to hurt or kill. The cyclist ain't gonna do that.
We don't know that yet, he is a bit suss. He has already shown he will poke his head into womens cars saying "You're on camera, but I won't report you heheheheheheh"

It's all downhill from there.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.




LocoCoco

1,428 posts

175 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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walm said:
Ghibli said:
Go and open a car door and measure how much room it takes. The two doors don't open as one.
Christ you are dim.

Divide 1,750mm by two.
You will probably need a calculator.

Hint: it is more than 0.5m.

That's why you are wrong.
I've never owned a car where the doors opened up to a 90 degree angle, is that normal?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
2. My arse. When it comes to cyclists, all that disappears, and drivers can simply do no wrong. It doesn't matter how god-awful the driving might be, or the attitude of the driver, all of a sudden there's no such thing as a numpty. As this thread has firmly established, the cyclist is wrong if he rides in the door zone, he's in the wrong if he doesn't, and there's no fault on the driver who hits a cyclist.
I think I've been reading a different thread, because I've mostly seen a lot of people calling the driver a censored, a prick or an ahole, and laughing quite hard at his roly poly attempt.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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walm said:
Christ you are dim.

Divide 1,750mm by two.
You will probably need a calculator.

Hint: it is more than 0.5m.

That's why you are wrong.
And of course you open a car door fully ever time you get out ?

You can call me dim if it makes you feel better.

heebeegeetee

28,591 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Gaz. said:
My point exactly. Too busy being argumentative to see it though.

There's still pages and pages about cyclists, widths, gaps etc, which is completely missing the point imo. None of that is here nor there at all, imo.

The only thing worth talking about, once we've stopped laughing, is why is a lunatic allowed to drive?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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getawayturtle said:
We don't know that yet, he is a bit suss. He has already shown he will poke his head into womens cars saying "You're on camera, but I won't report you heheheheheheh"

It's all downhill from there.
To be fair, he has had some close shaves. I guess he would rather just go around wagging his finger like the cereal catcher.



LocoCoco

1,428 posts

175 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
Gaz. said:
My point exactly. Too busy being argumentative to see it though.

There's still pages and pages about cyclists, widths, gaps etc, which is completely missing the point imo. None of that is here nor there at all, imo.

The only thing worth talking about, once we've stopped laughing, is why is a lunatic allowed to drive?
Because they don't test people's mental health in the driving test. There's probably thousands of lunatics driving around.

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.
I don't understand how the motorist can come to the conclusion that the cyclist was only thinking of himself and his YT footage by watching him cycle in a straight line at a sensible distance from a row of parked cars.

So what exactly is it that you think he should have actually done in the seconds before the overtake, recognising that it is sensible for him to give cars enough distance to avoid being doored, and the motorist didn't give him time to pull towards the gap on the left?

Not what he was thinking about, what his motivation was, whether he was thinking about what to have for tea; but observations that the motorist could have had that would lead him to conclude that he was a self centred tt and therefore deserving of a close pass?

Edited by Mave on Wednesday 5th August 17:33

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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doogz said:
You don't? How do you manage that? As I said, visibility is crap out of my cat, so I regularly contort myself into daft positions to get a good look out the limited window area.
Wearing a cat as a hat is your problem. I find a fox fits better, the eyes are further apart :-)

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
He didn't call out the registration number until after the overtake. Si what was it about his cycling before the overtake that made him a self centred tt?
He didn't take note of the car coming from behind. He was only thinking of himself and his YT footage. Which bit don't you understand.
I don't understand how the motorist can come to the conclusion that the cyclist was only thinking of himself and his YT footage by watching him cycle in a straight line at a sensible distance from a row of parked cars.

So what exactly is it that you think he should have actually done in the seconds before the overtake, recognising that it is sensible for him to give cars enough distance to avoid being doored, and the motorist didn't give him time to pull towards the gap on the left?

Not what he was thinking about, what his motivation was, whether he was thinking about what to have for tea; but observations that the motorist could have had that would lead him to conclude that he was a self centred tt and therefore deserving of a close pass?

Edited by Mave on Wednesday 5th August 17:33
So you don't get it either.

Why did the cyclist not allow extra room for the car he could here approaching from behind ?

How much room was there from the camera mounted on the lower part of his handle bar ?

How much more room should have the driver given him ?



Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
So you don't get it either.
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?