Traffic Chaos London tomorrow
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First I heard about this was when the parents of my daughter's mate told us why it took over an hour to queue for the Blackwall Tunnel yesterday. Very helpful when we were moving her into her new flat and almost missed the estate agents who waited specifically to hand over the front door keys.
Still, later on the empty Olympic Velodrome looked pretty from the slow moving dual carriageway.
Still, later on the empty Olympic Velodrome looked pretty from the slow moving dual carriageway.
Impasse said:
First I heard about this was when the parents of my daughter's mate told us why it took over an hour to queue for the Blackwall Tunnel yesterday. Very helpful when we were moving her into her new flat and almost missed the estate agents who waited specifically to hand over the front door keys.
Still, later on the empty Olympic Velodrome looked pretty from the slow moving dual carriageway.
Still, later on the empty Olympic Velodrome looked pretty from the slow moving dual carriageway.
Hackney said:
it's almost as if people don't think about their journeys and plan ahead, checking traffic information in advance.
Hackney said:
it's almost as if people don't think about their journeys and plan ahead, checking traffic information in advance.
Is this animosity due to the seemingly prevalent hatred for anything regarding cycling that seems to be seen in posts on here?
Do you think all the people who are affected by Le Mans, Silverstone and Goodwood should have the events cancelled in future due to the inconvenience they endure once a year caused by people who are into motorsport causing chaos on their local roads?
Do you think all the people who are affected by Le Mans, Silverstone and Goodwood should have the events cancelled in future due to the inconvenience they endure once a year caused by people who are into motorsport causing chaos on their local roads?
Hangcheck said:
Is this animosity due to the seemingly prevalent hatred for anything regarding cycling that seems to be seen in posts on here?
Do you think all the people who are affected by Le Mans, Silverstone and Goodwood should have the events cancelled in future due to the inconvenience they endure once a year caused by people who are into motorsport causing chaos on their local roads?
You mean dedicated tracks that actually bring benefits to the local economy and have a long tradition of such events rather than a relatively new event that cuts a major city virtually in half, closing major roads and preventing many thousands of people going about their daily business?Do you think all the people who are affected by Le Mans, Silverstone and Goodwood should have the events cancelled in future due to the inconvenience they endure once a year caused by people who are into motorsport causing chaos on their local roads?
valiant said:
You mean dedicated tracks that actually bring benefits to the local economy and have a long tradition of such events rather than a relatively new event that cuts a major city virtually in half, closing major roads and preventing many thousands of people going about their daily business?
So how does something go from being a new event to one with a long tradition?Also: "£7+ million was raised for charity making it the largest charity cycling event ever in the UK " and "There was £13.2 million direct economic benefit from the festival weekend"
Those figures are from the 2013 event.
How do you feel about the marathon?
Hangcheck said:
Is this animosity due to the seemingly prevalent hatred for anything regarding cycling that seems to be seen in posts on here?
I like cycling and I like running so no, for me it is being told once a year that if I am not out by 7am then I am staying in the rest of the day. The Olympics as a one off is fair enough, but to repeat this once a year for an amateur event is taking the piss.valiant said:
You mean dedicated tracks that actually bring benefits to the local economy and have a long tradition of such events rather than a relatively new event that cuts a major city virtually in half, closing major roads and preventing many thousands of people going about their daily business?
As Dick Turpin put it so well above. The event raises lots of money for worthy causes and there are people staying in hotels, spending money in shops/restaurants etc which are helping thousands in their business.I live in a town with a well known horse-racing event that causes traffic problems and parking issues for 4 days every year. It also means friends I know with bars and restaurants can afford to subsidise their business in quiet periods with the amount of money it can bring in. Is one day in the year on a weekend that much of a hardship?
Hangcheck said:
As Dick Turpin put it so well above. The event raises lots of money for worthy causes and there are people staying in hotels, spending money in shops/restaurants etc which are helping thousands in their business.
I live in a town with a well known horse-racing event that causes traffic problems and parking issues for 4 days every year. It also means friends I know with bars and restaurants can afford to subsidise their business in quiet periods with the amount of money it can bring in. Is one day in the year on a weekend that much of a hardship?
Having attended most big race meetings I think the difference here is that they have infrastructure just it gets stressed on the days there is racing. If you have a rural pub/restaurant/shop that is on the route it sounds great, but if the only access to your establishment is a road that is closed all day/weekend then that is you effectively out of business for the the day/weekend.I live in a town with a well known horse-racing event that causes traffic problems and parking issues for 4 days every year. It also means friends I know with bars and restaurants can afford to subsidise their business in quiet periods with the amount of money it can bring in. Is one day in the year on a weekend that much of a hardship?
I am sure it does on the whole raise money, but it is at a cost to some people.
Edited by Moulder on Monday 3rd August 15:57
Moulder said:
I like cycling and I like running so no, for me it is being told once a year that if I am not out by 7am then I am staying in the rest of the day. The Olympics as a one off is fair enough, but to repeat this once a year for an amateur event is taking the piss.
There was a pro race as well, after the sportive.How do you feel about the marathon?
The marathon is run in a relatively confined area in comparison and also runs through an area that is generally closed and a bit of a ghost town on a Sunday (Canary Wharf).
I don't think many people are complaining about having a cycle event per se, they are objecting to the routing of said event. Cutting London virtually in half from East London to Surrey is a bit much IMO. Had it followed the marathon route then there would be little fuss as disruption is confined to one area not an entire major metropolis.
I don't think many people are complaining about having a cycle event per se, they are objecting to the routing of said event. Cutting London virtually in half from East London to Surrey is a bit much IMO. Had it followed the marathon route then there would be little fuss as disruption is confined to one area not an entire major metropolis.
Hangcheck said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
How about we shut the roads outside your house so that the local WI can hold their annual "knitting in the street" celebration?
Because that's just the same thing isn't it? Everyone knows to do knitting you need to do it in the street. Yesterday lunchtime I drove from SE London, through the Blackwall tunnel, along the A1203 in to the city, across Westminster bridge and parked up on Lambeth High Street. It was fine. Later I drove back from Lambeth to SE London along the Old Kent Road. Also completely fine.
Obviously different people have different experiences but a lot of the road closures were short lived. The certainly didn't "cut London in half for a whole day". Personally the marathon causes me far more problems every year, but I'd rather that than stop these kind of events taking place.
Obviously different people have different experiences but a lot of the road closures were short lived. The certainly didn't "cut London in half for a whole day". Personally the marathon causes me far more problems every year, but I'd rather that than stop these kind of events taking place.
Moulder said:
I like cycling and I like running so no, for me it is being told once a year that if I am not out by 7am then I am staying in the rest of the day. The Olympics as a one off is fair enough, but to repeat this once a year for an amateur event is taking the piss.
It's hardly that dramatic!It's not a good day to drive, is all. There are still all the things to do and other ways to get around.
Moulder said:
I like cycling and I like running so no, for me it is being told once a year that if I am not out by 7am then I am staying in the rest of the day. The Olympics as a one off is fair enough, but to repeat this once a year for an amateur event is taking the piss.
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