RE: Delivery Miles: Mazda MX-5b

RE: Delivery Miles: Mazda MX-5b

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iva cosworth

44,044 posts

164 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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Good to read that most orders are for red,not poverty spec white or the 15 shades of grey available ( possibly)...biggrin

dai1983

2,914 posts

150 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Looks like a very good car. Looking forward to the day wen they can be had for about £5k!

Is the 2.0 a Duratec still? Full exhaust and cams would free up some horses with ITBs for 220+bhp!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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dai1983 said:
Looks like a very good car. Looking forward to the day wen they can be had for about £5k!

Is the 2.0 a Duratec still? Full exhaust and cams would free up some horses with ITBs for 220+bhp!
It's one of the Mazda Skyactiv engines.

I like it, I'll take a grey, 2.0 SE-L, please! lick

MajorMantra

1,305 posts

113 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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iva cosworth said:
Good to read that most orders are for red,not poverty spec white or the 15 shades of grey available ( possibly)...biggrin
Even so, anyone else underwhelmed by the colours on offer? Why can't we have proper RED instead of the wishy-washy maroony metallic thing they do?

And imagine how great the car would look in Polestar blue for example...

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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neil-935ql said:
Sorry can't get too excited about the mx5 I somehow miss the point , give me a lotus Elise anyday !
Obviously someone with more money than braincells then.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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As posted in the MX-5 forum:

300bhp/ton said:
Don't know how many of you guys watch Mototrend TV. But there is a very good review of the new MX-5.
https://youtu.be/BLtw2z_mZ6w

And an earlier road test done in Scotland with the smaller engine 1.5 variant:
https://youtu.be/gDLKwTdurxg


The first vid pits the MX-5 against the BRZ. The Mazda clocks some impressive performance stats in the test. Way better than those posted on he Mazda UK website. Anyone know if the UK spec models have different gearing or final drive? Power outputs appear to be the same. Just a huge difference in claimed performance.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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neil-935ql said:
Howroyd said:
Elise is a more expensive car, but even comparing a Series 3 Elise against an MX5 the weight difference isn't as much as expected. If you take a boggo Elise CR against a 2.0 MX5 they would be pretty close.

What the Elise has is more focus, but i'd argue that a new 2.0 Miata with no more than a grand chucked at it to firm up the suspension and you'd be looking at fairly similar prospects

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No abuse I guess we are all very different when it comes to cars , it comes down to personal choice and how you want to spend your buck , I think 23k for the Mazda it a lot , so I will stick to my guns and go for a good used Elise for that kind of money , you only live once !
But can you get the same kind of finance deals on a used Lotus? No idea, so genuine question.

The MX-5, you could walk into a dealer, trade in an old car (and maybe some cash, depending on trade in value) and walk out with a new sports car for a fairly affordable £280/month. I suspect that this makes it potentially attainable to a lot of people.

neil-935ql

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1,085 posts

107 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
Obviously someone with more money than braincells then.
Not at all , 24k is a lot for a Mazda ,a very good alternative would be a used lotus Elise for similar money or less , I know where I would rather spend my money

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Chris Rees said:
CoolHands said:
oh maybe. Wonder what the real-world mpg would be of the 2 litre.
I got 34mpg in the 2.0-litre on a fairly fast run on Scottish A-roads. The 1.5-litre managed 38mpg. Not bad figures, I reckon.
Actually, I find that a little disappointing. How was the mpg worked out? Was it OBC or from filling up and manually calculating it?

The only reason I say this is, I think this new MX-5 would be a good viable alternative to my smart Roadster. The smart is lighter and probably more nimble, but obviously less powerful and not as fast (although more than fast enough to be fun and entertaining).

My commute is circa 36 miles each way. Mixed roads, but a sports car is ideal. I don't thrash the car, but nor do I drive in an economical way. I typically get 52-58mpg. Last fill up, again just 'normal' driving, not driving for economy, it did 61mpg.

I'd hope that a 1000kg MX-5 would be able to offer easy mid to high 40's mpg without trying.


Mixed roads include, fast A, dual carriage way, country lanes, B and C grade roads. Going up and down the gears and using the rev band.

elvismiggell

1,635 posts

152 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Well, the 2.0 is now delayed until the end of October. Just had a call from Mazda to explain they were delayed for their final checks and missed the boat to Zebrugge.

No mention of the 1.5 and I didn't think to ask.

SFO

5,169 posts

184 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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elvismiggell said:
Well, the 2.0 is now delayed until the end of October. Just had a call from Mazda to explain they were delayed for their final checks and missed the boat to Zebrugge.

No mention of the 1.5 and I didn't think to ask.
does this mean no 2.0 at all in the UK? or limited supplies of 2.0?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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neil-935ql said:
Not at all , 24k is a lot for a Mazda ,a very good alternative would be a used lotus Elise for similar money or less , I know where I would rather spend my money
Why not say used Ferrari too, just to make it an even more irrelevant point.

neil-935ql

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1,085 posts

107 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
Why not say used Ferrari too, just to make it an even more irrelevant point.
A used Ferrari for 24k ?? I am in , again it's a very fair point , you spend your money how you want so it's quite normal to consider all options when buying a car , new or used ? Just cause it's new don't mean its good

Robert Elise

956 posts

146 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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i'm bemused by many of the comments on this thread, well, most threads actually.
you can quote stats all day, but the Elise and MX5 are quite different cars... Both excellent, small with 2 seats yes, but quite different really. There is some market overlap (me) but not that much.

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
Chris Rees said:
CoolHands said:
oh maybe. Wonder what the real-world mpg would be of the 2 litre.
I got 34mpg in the 2.0-litre on a fairly fast run on Scottish A-roads. The 1.5-litre managed 38mpg. Not bad figures, I reckon.
Actually, I find that a little disappointing. How was the mpg worked out? Was it OBC or from filling up and manually calculating it?

The only reason I say this is, I think this new MX-5 would be a good viable alternative to my smart Roadster. The smart is lighter and probably more nimble, but obviously less powerful and not as fast (although more than fast enough to be fun and entertaining).

My commute is circa 36 miles each way. Mixed roads, but a sports car is ideal. I don't thrash the car, but nor do I drive in an economical way. I typically get 52-58mpg. Last fill up, again just 'normal' driving, not driving for economy, it did 61mpg.

I'd hope that a 1000kg MX-5 would be able to offer easy mid to high 40's mpg without trying.


Mixed roads include, fast A, dual carriage way, country lanes, B and C grade roads. Going up and down the gears and using the rev band.
If you are that worried about 10mpg difference then maybe you shouldn't be looking to spend money on a new depreciating asset? Life is to short to worry about miles per gallon! It's not like it does 5mpg.

elvismiggell

1,635 posts

152 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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SFO said:
does this mean no 2.0 at all in the UK? or limited supplies of 2.0?
I don't know. I preordered back at the beginning of May. I guess it's possible that people that ordered earlier than that may be ok?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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neil1jnr said:
If you are that worried about 10mpg difference then maybe you shouldn't be looking to spend money on a new depreciating asset? Life is to short to worry about miles per gallon! It's not like it does 5mpg.
I think you need to check your maths.

34mpg for the 2.0 vs 55mpg+ I get now is a pretty big difference. 21mpg in raw numbers or a rather larger percentage.

I typically do maybe 12,000 - 14,000 miles a year.

Depreciation is a different cost and not one you have to pay out each month, while fuel is.


The Hypno-Toad

12,285 posts

206 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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SFO said:
elvismiggell said:
Well, the 2.0 is now delayed until the end of October. Just had a call from Mazda to explain they were delayed for their final checks and missed the boat to Zebrugge.

No mention of the 1.5 and I didn't think to ask.
does this mean no 2.0 at all in the UK? or limited supplies of 2.0?
The 1.5 in all models is fine, no worries in supply for the end of September/beginning of October.

Demand for the 2.0 is very high and they are basically sold out in the Sport model until late November. There are some 2.0 SE-Ls still available. People who ordered the 2.0 early should not have their vehicle delayed by the Zebrugge issue.

Hope that helps. smile

elvismiggell

1,635 posts

152 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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The Hypno-Toad said:
People who ordered the 2.0 early should not have their vehicle delayed by the Zebrugge issue.

Hope that helps. smile
Not sure it does - one guy on the MX5 Owners Club forum ordered his on 9th March and is impacted. I ordered mine on 3rd May and am impacted too.

Per the PH article that mentioned unanticipated numbers for the 2.0, I get that dates have slipped but it's extremely disappointing to have gone from a range of 1st Sep - 1st Oct with at least my dealership being cautiously optimistic (in fairness with due caveats) about it potentially arriving late in August to now being told "late October", and even that isn't confirmed.

(My paperwork actually has an estimated delivery date of 13th August, but again that's because I ordered early enough that they had to put it through as an NC...)

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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kathyp said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Is this where I post again about buying one of the last sport/nav 2.0 of the mk3 in March for £16k brand new?

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No, it's where we commiserate with you for not waiting for the Mk4 wink
Read this months evo? wink