What is the least "PH" car?
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By least "PH", I don't necessarily mean a FWD diesel automatic crossover but just something totally devoid of character or interest i.e. if you owned one and were telling your friends about it, you would be stuck for something to say.
There are some older cars that might qualify, such as the Austin Maestro for instance but it does at least have rarity on its side now, the story behind its gestation is quite interesting and it's almost so bad, it's good!
No, I would have to go with something new and ubiquitous. Looking at the list of best-selling cars last year, I would have to go for a Vauxhall Astra 1.4/1.6 petrol. It's not good-looking (or bad-looking) just dull, it's gutless, going off RRPs, it's not that cheap. Oh, do the windscreen wipers go in opposite directions? That's quite interesting. To be fair I haven't driven the current gen yet but the last one was appalling and last time my FIL visited, he hired an Astra 1.6 and had to take it back and swap it for a Peugeot 3008 diesel because he hated it so much! And he's a GM man, who would rather walk than drive a Ford (or Skoda)! The Corsa is almost as dull but at least it is quite cheap and quite ugly (which is at least a talking point).
I can kind of understand that you might not buy a Ford Focus instead if you don't like the looks but personally, I would find the small premium for a VW Golf or Audi A3 not difficult to justify. Or just buy anything else (Megane, 308, Civic, Leon etc), as at least it's a bit more leftfield and interesting.
For some reason, my Canadian petrolhead friends are clamouring for the Astra in Canada, particularly the VXR model. To be fair, the only model that GM offer in this class in Canada is the Chevrolet Cruze saloon though. Stick a Buick badge on it they say (after all the Buick Regal is merely a rebadged Vauxhall Insignia)! Be careful what you wish for!
Apparently, this is the "sporty" SRi model.
I have the same problem with most Hyundais (I find it hard to picture what any of them look like) but at least they are well-equipped, have a long warranty and you can tell people that they're quite good cars now actually!
What in your opinion is the least "PH" car?
There are some older cars that might qualify, such as the Austin Maestro for instance but it does at least have rarity on its side now, the story behind its gestation is quite interesting and it's almost so bad, it's good!
No, I would have to go with something new and ubiquitous. Looking at the list of best-selling cars last year, I would have to go for a Vauxhall Astra 1.4/1.6 petrol. It's not good-looking (or bad-looking) just dull, it's gutless, going off RRPs, it's not that cheap. Oh, do the windscreen wipers go in opposite directions? That's quite interesting. To be fair I haven't driven the current gen yet but the last one was appalling and last time my FIL visited, he hired an Astra 1.6 and had to take it back and swap it for a Peugeot 3008 diesel because he hated it so much! And he's a GM man, who would rather walk than drive a Ford (or Skoda)! The Corsa is almost as dull but at least it is quite cheap and quite ugly (which is at least a talking point).
I can kind of understand that you might not buy a Ford Focus instead if you don't like the looks but personally, I would find the small premium for a VW Golf or Audi A3 not difficult to justify. Or just buy anything else (Megane, 308, Civic, Leon etc), as at least it's a bit more leftfield and interesting.
For some reason, my Canadian petrolhead friends are clamouring for the Astra in Canada, particularly the VXR model. To be fair, the only model that GM offer in this class in Canada is the Chevrolet Cruze saloon though. Stick a Buick badge on it they say (after all the Buick Regal is merely a rebadged Vauxhall Insignia)! Be careful what you wish for!
Apparently, this is the "sporty" SRi model.
I have the same problem with most Hyundais (I find it hard to picture what any of them look like) but at least they are well-equipped, have a long warranty and you can tell people that they're quite good cars now actually!
What in your opinion is the least "PH" car?
Perodua Myvi
Nothing to distinguish it. Most people don't even know it exists. If you didn't know it existed and now do I'm afraid to say the knowledge won't enhance your life in any way.
http://www.peroduamyvi.co.uk/index.htm
Nothing to distinguish it. Most people don't even know it exists. If you didn't know it existed and now do I'm afraid to say the knowledge won't enhance your life in any way.
http://www.peroduamyvi.co.uk/index.htm
TWPC said:
Perodua Myvi
Nothing to distinguish it. Most people don't even know it exists. If you didn't know it existed and now do I'm afraid to say the knowledge won't enhance your life in any way.
http://www.peroduamyvi.co.uk/index.htm
The Myvi has a redeeming feature in that it is relatively cheap for a new car and is based on a car that is a couple of generations old.Nothing to distinguish it. Most people don't even know it exists. If you didn't know it existed and now do I'm afraid to say the knowledge won't enhance your life in any way.
http://www.peroduamyvi.co.uk/index.htm
I present to you the Mitsubishi Mirage. This heap of crud is a current model, from a respected modern manufacturer, and is an overpriced piece of junk.
I can understand what you're saying about the Astra. Back in about 2006 I had a Vectra estate as a hire car for a day. First car I've ever driven that I didn't know nor care what engine it had. It was not bad at anything, it was just so all consumingly dull in every way. Performance was good enough. Steering got you pointing more or less where you wanted to go. The brakes were adequate. The interior was... present. The seat was fine.
It was the Okayest car I've ever driven and I completely hated it for that. I've since passengered in an Insignia and from that point of view at least it appeared that nothing had changed at Vauxhall in the past 9 years.
It was the Okayest car I've ever driven and I completely hated it for that. I've since passengered in an Insignia and from that point of view at least it appeared that nothing had changed at Vauxhall in the past 9 years.
cerb4.5lee said:
Nissan Juke must be in with a shout.
While the Nissan Micra has some comedy value, theslightly larger brother, the Nissan Almera, has
all the appeal of a wet Tuesday in January in Dundee.
Get one of the lower powered ones, in tedious white, and
suddenly watching Inspector Morse mysteries, taking exception
to something on LBC, getting the lawns done before the neighbours
notice and other banalities of middle-aged life beckon.
Still, it won't break down, no one will give it a second look
and no one will try to steal it ;-|
dcb said:
While the Nissan Micra has some comedy value, the
slightly larger brother, the Nissan Almera, has
all the appeal of a wet Tuesday in January in Dundee.
Get one of the lower powered ones, in tedious white, and
suddenly watching Inspector Morse mysteries, taking exception
to something on LBC, getting the lawns done before the neighbours
notice and other banalities of middle-aged life beckon.
Still, it won't break down, no one will give it a second look
and no one will try to steal it ;-
Seconded.... We had a grey 1.5 petrol version.slightly larger brother, the Nissan Almera, has
all the appeal of a wet Tuesday in January in Dundee.
Get one of the lower powered ones, in tedious white, and
suddenly watching Inspector Morse mysteries, taking exception
to something on LBC, getting the lawns done before the neighbours
notice and other banalities of middle-aged life beckon.
Still, it won't break down, no one will give it a second look
and no one will try to steal it ;-
Utterly competent, but the absolute definition of dull. Never let us down, but I felt positively cruel when using it to drag a 700kg trailer tent on holidays.
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