How to overtake cyclists video
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Speaking, or actually typing, as someone who started cycling on the road 50+ years ago, motor biking 47 years ago and driving 45 years ago, I don't really care how close cars overtake so long as they miss me. What bothers me far more when I'm on my bike, which tbh is as seldom as possible nowadays, is what the Highways authorities don't do, which is fill in the potholes that I have to ride through, level up the drains I have to swerve round, and generally do something useful to my safety instead of wasting money on b*s
t cycle lanes.
And I reckon that anyone who blocks the road by riding two abreast deserves whatever comes to them.
Ideally, I would like everyone to start on the road by cycling for a year, then passing their Proficiency. Then a year on a motor bike and pass the test.
Then and only then a car. That would sure clear a lot of knobs off the road, and ensure that drivers have a better awareness of those on two wheels.
V8
t cycle lanes.And I reckon that anyone who blocks the road by riding two abreast deserves whatever comes to them.
Ideally, I would like everyone to start on the road by cycling for a year, then passing their Proficiency. Then a year on a motor bike and pass the test.
Then and only then a car. That would sure clear a lot of knobs off the road, and ensure that drivers have a better awareness of those on two wheels.
V8
otolith said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
How closely are you willing to walk past a parked car?How closely are you happy with a car passing you on foot?
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Where's the "not sure if serious" image when it's needed?mdavids said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Because basic physics. If you'd listened at school, you'd know this, and wouldn't have just made yourself look like an imbecile.crostonian said:
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Where's the "not sure if serious" image when it's needed?Johnnytheboy said:
monthefish said:
Surely if you give the outside cyclist 'as much space as a small car occupies' you would be off the road/in the verge on the other side of the road.
e.g. on the following poster, put the bike just to the left of the white line (as they often are), if the car gives the cyclist the requested amount of space, he's off the road on the RHS
Treat a cyclist like a car, i.e. imagine they are the width of a car. Simple.e.g. on the following poster, put the bike just to the left of the white line (as they often are), if the car gives the cyclist the requested amount of space, he's off the road on the RHS
If they want to ride further towards the middle of the road or two abreast, they are making a choice to be passed more closely. Simple.
They need to amend rule 61-63 of the highway code to bring it in line with RoI, Spain and some US cities. Mandating the use of cycle lanes where they are provided. In my local area they reduced the width of the main road through the village to the bare minimum (bus's & lorries need to come almost entirely to a halt when passing each other) so that they could triple wide the pavement and integrate a large high quality cycle path into it (Smoother tarmac than the road, no broken detritus, seperated from traffic by a physical barrier etc). This road gets very popular with lycra tts who avoid the cycle lane like the plague and insist on taking room on the already packed road meaning its very difficult to pass them safely and as a result most of us locals tend to get frustrated to the point where the cyclists end up literally getting pushed into the gutter (or one of the bus stops is a favourite "forcing your way past" area). This is not only an issue of cyclist safety but also is an issue to the motorists who traverse the road as it causes excess stress and causes folks to take risks that they shouldnt be required to take.
I really dont understand these people who shout scream and stamp there feet over cyclists rights then disreguard them when they are provided (with great expense to the motoring massive) to them.
As for enforcement I could foresee a very similer enforcement to that in the Republic of Ireland, where the law is there but is only really enforced when an accident is involved, this protects the motorist legally when a cyclist does something stupid and gets himself killed or injured.
ts who avoid the cycle lane like the plague and insist on taking room on the already packed road meaning its very difficult to pass them safely and as a result most of us locals tend to get frustrated to the point where the cyclists end up literally getting pushed into the gutter (or one of the bus stops is a favourite "forcing your way past" area). This is not only an issue of cyclist safety but also is an issue to the motorists who traverse the road as it causes excess stress and causes folks to take risks that they shouldnt be required to take.I really dont understand these people who shout scream and stamp there feet over cyclists rights then disreguard them when they are provided (with great expense to the motoring massive) to them.
As for enforcement I could foresee a very similer enforcement to that in the Republic of Ireland, where the law is there but is only really enforced when an accident is involved, this protects the motorist legally when a cyclist does something stupid and gets himself killed or injured.
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Where's the "not sure if serious" image when it's needed?crostonian said:
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Where's the "not sure if serious" image when it's needed?crostonian said:
otolith said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
How closely are you willing to walk past a parked car?How closely are you happy with a car passing you on foot?
caelite said:
They need to amend rule 61-63 of the highway code to bring it in line with RoI, Spain and some US cities. Mandating the use of cycle lanes where they are provided. In my local area they reduced the width of the main road through the village to the bare minimum (bus's & lorries need to come almost entirely to a halt when passing each other) so that they could triple wide the pavement and integrate a large high quality cycle path into it (Smoother tarmac than the road, no broken detritus, seperated from traffic by a physical barrier etc). This road gets very popular with lycra tts who avoid the cycle lane like the plague and insist on taking room on the already packed road meaning its very difficult to pass them safely and as a result most of us locals tend to get frustrated to the point where the cyclists end up literally getting pushed into the gutter (or one of the bus stops is a favourite "forcing your way past" area). This is not only an issue of cyclist safety but also is an issue to the motorists who traverse the road as it causes excess stress and causes folks to take risks that they shouldnt be required to take.
I really dont understand these people who shout scream and stamp there feet over cyclists rights then disreguard them when they are provided (with great expense to the motoring massive) to them.
As for enforcement I could foresee a very similer enforcement to that in the Republic of Ireland, where the law is there but is only really enforced when an accident is involved, this protects the motorist legally when a cyclist does something stupid and gets himself killed or injured.
You clearly put lots of thought into that hahaha.ts who avoid the cycle lane like the plague and insist on taking room on the already packed road meaning its very difficult to pass them safely and as a result most of us locals tend to get frustrated to the point where the cyclists end up literally getting pushed into the gutter (or one of the bus stops is a favourite "forcing your way past" area). This is not only an issue of cyclist safety but also is an issue to the motorists who traverse the road as it causes excess stress and causes folks to take risks that they shouldnt be required to take.I really dont understand these people who shout scream and stamp there feet over cyclists rights then disreguard them when they are provided (with great expense to the motoring massive) to them.
As for enforcement I could foresee a very similer enforcement to that in the Republic of Ireland, where the law is there but is only really enforced when an accident is involved, this protects the motorist legally when a cyclist does something stupid and gets himself killed or injured.
On your terms as a 'motorist' I have paid the same if not more for cycle lanes. As a cyclist, I don't use them because they are littered with crap and people plus poor layout prevent progress. As a road user in my bike I prefer the roads thanks so I'll use them. The fiscal entitlement argument you have falls down as most cyclists own cars therefore contribute the same, if not more than you. Personally i contribute more in VED and more than likely in general taxation than you. Perhaps we should meter out road useage, give priority to those that actually pay the most in? The thing is the weak minded don't see that cycling reduces traffic and the average time your held up by a bike is sod all. Otherwise can you please keep your little car out of the way and come back and talk to me when you're not a soppy skateboarding youth with all of 6 years driving experience
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 12th August 22:17
crostonian said:
otolith said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
How closely are you willing to walk past a parked car?How closely are you happy with a car passing you on foot?
Edited by otolith on Wednesday 12th August 22:28
88v8 said:
Speaking, or actually typing, as someone who started cycling on the road 50+ years ago, motor biking 47 years ago and driving 45 years ago, I don't really care how close cars overtake so long as they miss me. What bothers me far more when I'm on my bike, which tbh is as seldom as possible nowadays, is what the Highways authorities don't do, which is fill in the potholes that I have to ride through, level up the drains I have to swerve round, and generally do something useful to my safety instead of wasting money on b*st cycle lanes.
And I reckon that anyone who blocks the road by riding two abreast deserves whatever comes to them.
Ideally, I would like everyone to start on the road by cycling for a year, then passing their Proficiency. Then a year on a motor bike and pass the test.
Then and only then a car. That would sure clear a lot of knobs off the road, and ensure that drivers have a better awareness of those on two wheels.
V8
It would screw a lot of people who, for whatever reason, can't balance a bike. Disabled people and those who have no sense of balance.t cycle lanes.And I reckon that anyone who blocks the road by riding two abreast deserves whatever comes to them.
Ideally, I would like everyone to start on the road by cycling for a year, then passing their Proficiency. Then a year on a motor bike and pass the test.
Then and only then a car. That would sure clear a lot of knobs off the road, and ensure that drivers have a better awareness of those on two wheels.
V8
crostonian said:
Yes I am. Thanks.
You're full of crap. I bet you cut up cyclists, you wouldn't be brave enough. Another PH warrior. Just because your life is a bit tragic and you only have sex with your hand don't stress and make things up on the internet. Step outside, smell the flowers, listen to the birds singing and wonder how something as dim as you has managed to hold its cells together for so long.yonex said:
You're full of crap. I bet you cut up cyclists, you wouldn't be brave enough. Another PH warrior. Just because your life is a bit tragic and you only have sex with your hand don't stress and make things up on the internet. Step outside, smell the flowers, listen to the birds singing and wonder how something as dim as you has managed to hold its cells together for so long.
Can't help but notice that the name YONEX sounds like an exotic type of eco sustainable recycling friendly lycra. Just an observation.Artey said:
Can't help but notice that the name YONEX sounds like an exotic type of eco sustainable recycling friendly lycra. Just an observation.
Great. I can't help but make the connection between your username and someone who failed art college despite having 'supportive parents'. Just saying.crostonian said:
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Bonefish Blues said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Where's the "not sure if serious" image when it's needed?crostonian said:
mdavids said:
crostonian said:
Why do cyclists expect you to give them a wide berth when you overtake them yet they are happy to undertake you with hardly any gap at all? I delight in overtaking them as closely as they've undertaken me, fairs fair and all that.
Because basic physics. If you'd listened at school, you'd know this, and wouldn't have just made yourself look like an imbecile.
I would say a sensible rule of thumb is to leave as much space such that if the cyclist suddenly fell off or had to dodge a pothole/manhole cover (which you will possibly not have seen) you would not hit them (or them you).
Sometimes that is not always totally practical, in which case pass them slowly such that the speed difference is minimal. The more the speed differential, the more space should be left.
Sometimes that is not always totally practical, in which case pass them slowly such that the speed difference is minimal. The more the speed differential, the more space should be left.
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