cheapest way to get a private reg

cheapest way to get a private reg

Author
Discussion

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
rohrl said:
Unfortunately I'm going to be Yuri Uwe Jones.
Do you happen to have an S-reg blue Range Rover?

I just wonder because I knew of one years ago with Sxxx YUJ and it's showing as taxed and MOT'd and I wonder who has it.

Long shot, but I thought I'd ask.

g7jhp

6,959 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
LordGrover said:
Wouldn't you have to re-register the car to sell it?
The DVLA will give you an alternative registration number for you to put on the vehicle (your dateless plate is coming off) as part of the removal process. You just buy the plates and put them on.

scorcher

3,982 posts

233 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
ejenner said:
yeah, look... I tried these guys http://primoregistrations.co.uk

Cheaper than either the DVLA or reg-transfers
You must buy the actual made up number plates from them @ nearly £20, and then they'll try and fleece you for another £20 for "completing the legal paperwork". Think I'd rather buy from DVLA. Click and deal direct. Companies that aren't completely transparent about their pricing are usually best avoided.

rohrl

8,712 posts

144 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
RobinBanks said:
rohrl said:
Unfortunately I'm going to be Yuri Uwe Jones.
Do you happen to have an S-reg blue Range Rover?

I just wonder because I knew of one years ago with Sxxx YUJ and it's showing as taxed and MOT'd and I wonder who has it.

Long shot, but I thought I'd ask.
'fraid not. I have a Seat Leon Cupra-R.

ejenner

Original Poster:

3,994 posts

180 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
scorcher said:
ejenner said:
yeah, look... I tried these guys http://primoregistrations.co.uk

Cheaper than either the DVLA or reg-transfers
You must buy the actual made up number plates from them @ nearly £20, and then they'll try and fleece you for another £20 for "completing the legal paperwork". Think I'd rather buy from DVLA. Click and deal direct. Companies that aren't completely transparent about their pricing are usually best avoided.
Good point.

The issue I have is that the bit which isn't the DVLA fee could be from £0 to £whatever - so the question is what makes the price different from different companies? It must be just a case of what they decided to charge?

Roo

11,503 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

202 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
Roo said:
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.
This ^^^^
You will probably need to add VAT etc.

croyde

22,709 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
Croyde Roberto Olsen has a certain ring to it.

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
quotequote all
I love private plate websites.

2 are "selling" the plate i have - it wasn't for sale when i obtained it (on a classic), or whe it was on my wife's car, or now (on retention). Anyways, if someone is willing to give them the 7 grand they want for it, then i'll sell it to them for 6. Somehow, i doubt either would ever happen - especially since i enquired about it as a buyer, but never got an offer as a seller?

ejenner

Original Poster:

3,994 posts

180 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
Roo said:
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.
I'm not thick, repeating the same thing over and over again with missing information won't elevate my understanding of the situation. If no new information is added then there is nothing to gain from repeating what you previously stated.

Let's settle this using an example to illustrate where the costs are in obtaining a private registration.

DVLA charge a registration fee of £80.00. Let's say for the sake of this example that the fee for acquiring the plate is £500.

So the total cost will be £580 plus VAT and the cost of physically creating the plates to attach to the vehicle.

The only potentially variable amount is the £500.00 << so how does that break down. Is it all profit or is there a hidden fee? Are you suggesting registration companies only charge a fixed fee for every plate and the rest of the amount is secretly going to the DVLA? I seriously doubt it.

So is it reasonable then to assume that different registration companies could provide the same registration plate at different prices as per the premise of the question? ...or would it be unreasonable to make that assumption?

Hamish Finn

476 posts

107 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
ejenner said:
..or would it be unreasonable to make that assumption?
Ah, you've grasped it at last.

sue20

1,092 posts

146 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
This is the most painful thread I've read for a while.

lord trumpton

7,321 posts

125 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
ejenner said:
Roo said:
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.
I'm not thick, repeating the same thing over and over again with missing information won't elevate my understanding of the situation. If no new information is added then there is nothing to gain from repeating what you previously stated.

Let's settle this using an example to illustrate where the costs are in obtaining a private registration.

DVLA charge a registration fee of £80.00. Let's say for the sake of this example that the fee for acquiring the plate is £500.

So the total cost will be £580 plus VAT and the cost of physically creating the plates to attach to the vehicle.

The only potentially variable amount is the £500.00 << so how does that break down. Is it all profit or is there a hidden fee? Are you suggesting registration companies only charge a fixed fee for every plate and the rest of the amount is secretly going to the DVLA? I seriously doubt it.

So is it reasonable then to assume that different registration companies could provide the same registration plate at different prices as per the premise of the question? ...or would it be unreasonable to make that assumption?
Look, DVLA is a wholesaler of new registrations. You can buy direct from them.
They price each plate more than likely using an algorithm that orders them in anticipated desirability based on many factors.
They make money from the sale of these plates. As they own them all and generate all the new ones, every sale has a nice profit, some providing more profit that others obviously.

The 3rd parties have access to the DVLA site data and can replicate what the DVLA are selling and sell them to the customer and slap up any mark up they want. The traders are just putting their own mark up on and acting as the intermediary.

Some people don't know that you can buy plates from DVLA so they are easy meat. Other do, so the traders quote cheaper prices than the DVLA like for like but exclude the £80 assignment fee that has to be paid.

If you see a plate and like it then its up to you if you want it that much to pay the asking price as there is no negotiation. The traders don't get discounts from the DVLA they just mark them up.

So, with the above in mind its always going to be cheaper buying a plate that the dvla have because they are the source.

Other previously issued plates...well that's a different market as the price is determined by the holder of said plate ie a private chap who has one on retention or the trader who has bought it from someone.


B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
ejenner said:
Roo said:
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.
I'm not thick, repeating the same thing over and over again with missing information won't elevate my understanding of the situation. If no new information is added then there is nothing to gain from repeating what you previously stated.

Let's settle this using an example to illustrate where the costs are in obtaining a private registration.

DVLA charge a registration fee of £80.00. Let's say for the sake of this example that the fee for acquiring the plate is £500.

So the total cost will be £580 plus VAT and the cost of physically creating the plates to attach to the vehicle.

The only potentially variable amount is the £500.00 << so how does that break down. Is it all profit or is there a hidden fee? Are you suggesting registration companies only charge a fixed fee for every plate and the rest of the amount is secretly going to the DVLA? I seriously doubt it.

So is it reasonable then to assume that different registration companies could provide the same registration plate at different prices as per the premise of the question? ...or would it be unreasonable to make that assumption?
DVLA Price includes that £80 assignement fee

So if a Plate is £500 it's £500 to put it on a car - that's it........

DKL

4,480 posts

221 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
lord trumpton said:
The traders don't get discounts from the DVLA they just mark them up.
This is the only reason I can see the OP asking the question. When wholesalers do retail they make more money so it is just possible that a good trade customer to the DVLA would get a discount for volume as with any other product. Hence it might be possible to buy the same unregistered plate from a 3rd party.
If there is no discount structure from the DVLA it can only be more expensive form a third party.

ejenner

Original Poster:

3,994 posts

180 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
sue20 said:
This is the most painful thread I've read for a while.
What are you saying?

It seems to me that the last few posts have been from people who have actually realised that the price for acquiring a personalised registration really could vary and they are attempting to have a go at explaining how the various fees stack up and who is profiting and how.

12lee

156 posts

164 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
ejenner said:
What are you saying?

It seems to me that the last few posts have been from people who have actually realised that the price for acquiring a personalised registration really could vary and they are attempting to have a go at explaining how the various fees stack up and who is profiting and how.
Indeed. It's incredible that people simply don't understand the mechanics or the commercial structure behind the cherished registration market. Simply amazing.

g7jhp

6,959 posts

237 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
Roo said:
In case you missed it I'll say it again.

If the registration you're after is available from the DVLA that will be the cheapest place to buy it from.

Why? Where do you think the other sellers are going to buy it from to sell it to you? Oh, and they want to make a living out of it so will charge you more.
When I've looked at most of the plates which were advertised cheaper than the DVLA they ended up more expensive by the time the transaction price is reached.

However these guys seem cheaper (but only by £10).... http://primoregistrations.co.uk/

Try comparing them with the DVLA and feedback if you disagree.

hufggfg

654 posts

192 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
g7jhp said:
When I've looked at most of the plates which were advertised cheaper than the DVLA they ended up more expensive by the time the transaction price is reached.

However these guys seem cheaper (but only by £10).... http://primoregistrations.co.uk/

Try comparing them with the DVLA and feedback if you disagree.
No, they're £10 more expensive than the DVLA. They force you to buy plates from them, which they charge you £20 for.

All-in, they may work out a touch cheaper, depending on how much you pay elsewhere to get the plates made up.

OP, why you're getting flack (and seemingly getting annoyed) here is that it's really INCREDIBLY simple.

IF the DVLA have a plate, then NO ONE else has it. The DLVA is the ONLY place that can "create" a new plate that hasn't been sold before, and the cost is the same no matter who you are. So, IF they have the plate there is no way someone else is cheaper, as the only way anyone else can get the plate (to sell to you) is to buy it from the DVLA.

Does that explain it? That's why there's no further discussion. If they DVLA have it, they are cheapest.

12lee

156 posts

164 months

Friday 14th August 2015
quotequote all
It's PRIMOREGISTRATIONS as if PRIMOREGISTRATIONS a whole thread PRIMOREGISTRATIONS has been PRIMOREGISTRATIONS started and PRIMOREGISTRATIONS laboured with PRIMOREGISTRATIONS feigned PRIMOREGISTRATIONS misunderstanding to PRIMOREGISTRATIONS draw attention PRIMOREGISTRATIONS to www.dvla-som.co.uk

Oops.