Mazda RX8 - What should I know?
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J4CKO said:
The Flying Ox said:
lostkiwi said:
And your basis for this nonsensical figure...?
Someone on a VW forum once heard a bloke down the pub who knew a bloke whose brother once saw one drive past says they are ticking timebombs, so it must be true.There is a reason that there are loads for sale with buggered engines,
They sold absolutely huge numbers of them, more than the S2000, 350Z, 370Z, BRZ and GT86 combined and there are precious few people who are prepared to take the VED and fuel bills for an old not "special enough" Mazda. So there is little demand. Which means they are worth peanuts. Which means when they have issues people don't fix them because it's not economically viable.
When a Porsche inevitably blows up people fix them because they're still worth money.
When an BMW inevitably goes expensively wrong people have an extended warranty because they're still worth money and expensive to fix.
Etc etc etc.
Spookily I'm looking at something similiar but not just yet - this car looks ideal as a bargain with a rebuild. Probably want to change that spoiler 
(and it needs a new MOT) but a car that seems to have been well loved for a grand is bargainous! Guys profile suggests car has been looked after.
Might be worth a punt for someone?
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php...
http://www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/rx8-231-for-sale/11...
(ps nowt to do with me, just a random ad that caught my eye today and shows rebuilt cars are available at low low prices. Not sure how much tax is though...)
(and it needs a new MOT) but a car that seems to have been well loved for a grand is bargainous! Guys profile suggests car has been looked after.Might be worth a punt for someone?
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php...
http://www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/rx8-231-for-sale/11...
(ps nowt to do with me, just a random ad that caught my eye today and shows rebuilt cars are available at low low prices. Not sure how much tax is though...)
Joeguard1990 said:
Look after it and it will look after you. Few cars for the money genuinely put a smile on your face every time you drive it 
Totally this. Sold ours when child #2 came along and bought a *ahem* 'sensible' family car 
but while it has more power, feels quicker (it is quicker in the sprint to 60) and is only a tiny bit worse handling in the end it's just a fast saloon. I still like it and it puts a smile on my face but I miss the RX-8.If I had the space and chances to drive one I'd have another one in a shot. Hell my wife keeps suggesting we should buy one to use as the basis for a locost.
Mr2Mike said:
WarnieV6GT said:
I looked into these and really fancied one but I couldn't live with the little things you had to do to avoid the compression issue. Such as not being able to turn it off straight away after, for example just moving it off the drive.
That's the avoid flooding it, not to avoid loss of compression.egor110 said:
Mr2Mike said:
WarnieV6GT said:
I looked into these and really fancied one but I couldn't live with the little things you had to do to avoid the compression issue. Such as not being able to turn it off straight away after, for example just moving it off the drive.
That's the avoid flooding it, not to avoid loss of compression.Although predominately to help prevent flooding it does actually help with avoiding loss of compression as flooding washes the oil off which then causes wear.
On the subject of flooding I've had more grief with piston engines flooding. Ours never failed to start, not once. Not even when I stalled it pulling off the drive just after starting it.
t from every angle.Joeguard1990 said:
Who told you 60k regardless? There are RX8s on over 100k miles on the original engine from people who look after them...
I talked to a rotary engine builder about this recently.Early RX8 engines die anywhere between 40K-120K miles. The later R3 engines don't seem to be failing so far.
lostkiwi said:
And your basis for this nonsensical figure...?
Well I suggest you check the classifieds on PHhttp://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
3 of 31 cars have over 70k miles and one of these has a new engine and I suspect the other 2 have as well
The cons far outweigh the pros, if you can pick one up for a grand and when it goes wrong get it scrapped without spending twice the value fixing it, I feel sorry for the people who bought one new for 30k and its worth about 2k now
Must be one of the worst depreciating cars I've ever seen
Colonial said:
I can't believe no one has mentioned how ripe these are for an LS engine conversion.
Example of what someone spent converting one;http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drift-cars-sale-pr...
Don't see the point, for that sort of money you can buy loads of cars professionally engineered to take a V8.
stugolf said:
lostkiwi said:
And your basis for this nonsensical figure...?
Well I suggest you check the classifieds on PHhttp://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
3 of 31 cars have over 70k miles and one of these has a new engine and I suspect the other 2 have as well
The cons far outweigh the pros, if you can pick one up for a grand and when it goes wrong get it scrapped without spending twice the value fixing it, I feel sorry for the people who bought one new for 30k and its worth about 2k now
Must be one of the worst depreciating cars I've ever seen
The highest mileage one has 90k and no mention at all of an engine rebuild.
So your contention that nothing will see them go past 60k miles was clearly nonsense.
otolith said:
Example of what someone spent converting one;
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drift-cars-sale-pr...
Don't see the point, for that sort of money you can buy loads of cars professionally engineered to take a V8.
To me that looks pretty good value for a V8 coupe!http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drift-cars-sale-pr...
Don't see the point, for that sort of money you can buy loads of cars professionally engineered to take a V8.
We got my dad one about 5 years ago. 28000 miles, full Mazda history on a 53 plate.
He started getting starting problems after a few months so had all the coil packs replaced.
This didn't help. If stalled it would not start for approx 3-5 minutes so no point trying.
Also had spurious engine warning lights.
Car was in and out the dealer so much the bill were bigger and the car never right so off it went.
It was a shame because it looked great and drove nice. he loved it.
Another friend bought one new, which the Cat caught fire and the car burned.
It's all enough to put me off buying one.
There is a lot of nonsense about oil usage. they are designed to use it but don't use that much.
MPG is terrible for the performance. My dads did 21 regardless of how hard it was driven.
He started getting starting problems after a few months so had all the coil packs replaced.
This didn't help. If stalled it would not start for approx 3-5 minutes so no point trying.
Also had spurious engine warning lights.
Car was in and out the dealer so much the bill were bigger and the car never right so off it went.
It was a shame because it looked great and drove nice. he loved it.
Another friend bought one new, which the Cat caught fire and the car burned.
It's all enough to put me off buying one.
There is a lot of nonsense about oil usage. they are designed to use it but don't use that much.
MPG is terrible for the performance. My dads did 21 regardless of how hard it was driven.
The fact that the word rebuild appears so often, likes its changing the wiper blades is what puts me off, for most modern cars an engine rebuild is unheard of.
The Rotary is a nice idea, it just has never fulfilled anything like its potential and never will, as far as I am aware even Mazda have given up on it and the Electric motor is waiting in the wings ready to take over from efficient, reliable and powerful piston engines, so who would bother developing the thirsty, self destructing, unreliable Rotary ? dopnt get me wrong, I like, them tuned ones make an amazing noise but they are history.
The Rotary is a nice idea, it just has never fulfilled anything like its potential and never will, as far as I am aware even Mazda have given up on it and the Electric motor is waiting in the wings ready to take over from efficient, reliable and powerful piston engines, so who would bother developing the thirsty, self destructing, unreliable Rotary ? dopnt get me wrong, I like, them tuned ones make an amazing noise but they are history.
Mazda have not given up, they still have a team working on wankels.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-maz...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-maz...
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