Which car best epitomises style over substance?

Which car best epitomises style over substance?

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white_goodman

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4,042 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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When you think of a car that offers style over substance, this is the one that automatically springs to mind. It still looks great even today IMHO but sits on the rather soggy mk4 Golf chassis.



However, I've driven one and whilst it is no sports car, the 225 is pretty quick and is capable of getting from A to B very quickly cross-country at 8/10ths if not with much in the way of excitement. Not all the reviews that I have read are damning either. The limited edition Quattro Sport was apparently quite a gem.

Before I get criticised for nominating a car that I haven't driven, my biggest disappointment was a 2008 Fiat Grande Punto 1.2 rental that I had the misfortune to drive from Dundee back to Manchester after delivering a new Peugeot 207 GTi to Dundee (I had a summer job delivering new Peugeots around the country). I got to drive a lot of small rentals that summer: Peugeot 206s/207s, Renault Clios, VW Polos, Skoda Fabias etc, as well as some leggy mk1 Focus Estates that were being replaced by 307 SWs as part of a fleet deal but after being initially quite pleased to have a Punto for a change (OK, it's only a 1.2 supermini but was by far the best-looking one back then), it turned out to be by far the worst.



I love small Fiats and have owned two (a Cinq Sporting and a similarly engined 500) and although they're not perfect, they do tend to relish being driven hard and usually feel quicker than the figures suggest. This one had no brio whatsoever though. Wooden steering and brakes, a horrid gearchange and massive throttle delay. It didn't even ride well or achieve good fuel economy either. That was a pretty miserable 6 hour drive back to Manchester!

However, it's just a 1.2 litre shopping hatch, so maybe one shouldn't expect too much.

I'm sad to say it but my nomination would probably be another Italian, the Alfa Romeo 4C.



First up it looks gorgeous and on looks alone could easily hold its head high in Casino Square amongst the supercars and Bentleys. On paper it looks perfect too. A tiny kerb weight, non-assisted steering, mid-engined RWD, an Elise-rivalling PWR and one of the most evocative badges in the business. It's not even that expensive for something with those looks and rarity. OK, a manual gearbox would have been nice and possibly a V6 but it still had the ingredients to be a modern-day Ferrari Dino.

No, I haven't driven one but every review that I have read has slated everything about it (engine, steering, chassis, gearbox) and puts it even below FWD coupes based on more mundane machinery. Such a shame. Another great-looking but ultimately disappointing Alfa Romeo.

Which car for you best epitomises style over substance?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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In a similar vein, the Aldi TT - the Peugeot RCX.


white_goodman

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4,042 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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OpulentBob said:
In a similar vein, the Aldi TT - the Peugeot RCX.
smile I thought that the turbo version was supposed to be pretty good actually?

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I'm afraid I completely disagree with the Grande Punto.
The basic engine is underpowered, but the 1.4 T-Jet I have surprises stuff costing 10k+ more.
And it looks great, I do agree with that!

Johnny 89

824 posts

152 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Surely the Hyundai Coupe is in with a shout? Didn't they come with a 1.6?

Camoradi

4,287 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Alfa Brera

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Johnny 89 said:
Surely the Hyundai Coupe is in with a shout? Didn't they come with a 1.6?
Possibly, I know they did a 2.7l V6 that had about 170bhp

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Nissan Figaro? A lot of style but not really very good at much.

That recent Renault thingy that was reminiscent of some sort of open top modern day Vauxhall Tigra?

Vauxhall Tigra come to think of it.

I'm on a roll now; Vauxhalls Calibra and Frontera.

Apologies to any Vauxhall fans. I didn't intend picking them out for criticism.

There was a small two seater soft top 4X4 type thing a few years back that was clearly style over substance. Was it a Suzuki X90?

JockySteer

1,407 posts

116 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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entry level A4/A5's. The one's with around 130bhp, no idea what they call them

otolith

56,020 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I wouldn't agree with the Alfa, on the grounds that they did at least make an effort and put most of the right ingredients in. They just somehow screwed up the execution. It's not mundane hardware in a pretty frock.

daemon

35,789 posts

197 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Jaguar X Type.

Probably had lots of show room and brochure appeal at the time, but plasticky trim, shiny hard leather and noisy diesel engines.

Was never developed the way the S Type was either.


W00DY

15,482 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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VW SP1. It looks like it could do 150mph, but with 65hp you'd have to push it out of a plane.

Looks ace though.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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OpulentBob said:
In a similar vein, the Aldi TT - the Peugeot RCX.
I think that's rubbish because the RCZ-R is pretty good.

The first car I thought of when I read the thread title was the Audi TT. I also knew who would be the OP when I read the title.

SlowV6

624 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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The vw beetle that was on a mkIV Golf chassis.

Toyota paseo
Nissan 100nx
Ford probe and Cougar

In 225 form I disagree that the TT is style over substance!

carinaman

21,282 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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daemon said:
Jaguar X Type.
I passed an 09 plate one yesterday with a chrome strip across the bootlid between the rear lights. In the distance in the visibility it appeared a bit like an XJ.

The chrome strip meant it was a Daimler?

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Alfa Brera is a good shout.

The OP clearly isn't thinking hard enough as the 4C is just a slightly disappointing super sports car. Hardly style over substance.

I'm thinking something convertible based on a poor city car.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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TT isn't that bad in 'top spec' IMO. Plenty of substance- reasonable power in 225 form. AWD, good standard specification and a decent load area. Just isn't a sports car is the problem for some I reckon.

Something like a Rover Streetwise is the ultimate exponent of this IMO- just a 200/25 in drag with plastic cladding stuck to it.

Likewise a Polo Dune.

I'm sure people keeping up with modern motors will have some more recent examples to hit us with. biggrin

The problem with including the Brera is that it's not totally awful underneath it's achingly beautiful clothes.

edit to add: I remember seeing the prototype at the 2002 Paris motorshow and thinking I didn't give a fk how it drove given it's looks.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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ManFromDelmonte said:
Possibly, I know they did a 2.7l V6 that had about 170bhp
Wasn't that bad to drive either (the V6) and looked like a Ferrari 360 if you squinted and pretended biggrin

carinaman

21,282 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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white_goodman said:
Is that Mauritius blue?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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The DeLoerean DMC-12 with it's wheezy V6 engine, especially with the auto transmission (10.5s 0-60!)