RE: Brit Mustang buyers favour V8s...

RE: Brit Mustang buyers favour V8s...

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lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Check out the market fortune of previous Ford coupes in UK,
  • Probe
  • Cougar
  • Puma
On the positive side they are clearly hoping they've reinvented the Capri. Time will tell.
Racing Puma does OK. wink

irocfan

40,471 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Quinny said:
I'm really excited to be getting a new mustang, I'm looking forward to the whole thing....there will always be folk that love pissing on someone's parade........
good for you - you should be excited and I hope that the reality is even better than the antici......pation. As for the 2nd part - yes, yes there are ignore these bitter twisted fks and enjoy what you like wink

rehab71

3,362 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Thermobaric said:
Is there an ETA on when they're likely going to be in showrooms to have a poke around and test drive? I was going to get something else but could be swayed to a Mustang but would have to see one in the metal.
I thought late October originally, but thinking mid November is more likely. Can't wait to get my hands on our demo.

Thermobaric

725 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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OK. Thanks.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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rehab71 said:
Well said! Sounds like he's dying for Mustang to fail, we've sold 50 so far.
Not at all! Hopefully it will be a huge success. Previous Ford coupes have had a tough time in the UK market and previous American V8s have also struggled, despite an initial flurry of excitement.


Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
rehab71 said:
Well said! Sounds like he's dying for Mustang to fail, we've sold 50 so far.
Not at all! Hopefully it will be a huge success. Previous Ford coupes have had a tough time in the UK market and previous American V8s have also struggled, despite an initial flurry of excitement.
Yes, but the thing you're overlooking here is.....because Mustang!!

The cars you mentioned had absolutely no appeal whatsoever over and above the sum of their components; this is an American, if not global, icon, which will hugely improve it's sales figures. Even if you take out the Mustang name from the equation you are still left with a very good-looking car, with a stonking engine that that can be modified in all sorts of ways to produce silly amounts of power, and it's not german!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Yes, but the thing you're overlooking here is.....because Mustang!!
They did try previously though. Although I admit it was a more lacklustre attempt with the 3.3 litre Fox body Stang.


irocfan

40,471 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
Centurion07 said:
Yes, but the thing you're overlooking here is.....because Mustang!!
They did try previously though. Although I admit it was a more lacklustre attempt with the 3.3 litre Fox body Stang.
but was the 3.3 any worse than the equivalent European option at the time?

kambites

67,576 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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swerni said:
It's going to be a niche player over here.
yes Anything without a diesel option will be a niche player in the UK. I doubt they have huge sales expectations though.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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irocfan said:
but was the 3.3 any worse than the equivalent European option at the time?
No, but it clearly wasn't pitched as a performance car. Which frankly is the entire appeal of a Mustang.

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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I had one as a hire car in june, we did nearly 3000 miles,
I had to open the "hood" to look at the engine, yes it was a V6 but it didnt seem that quick, the auto didnt know what gear it wanted to be in half the time,

the handling was a bit floaty, especially at speed, it liked to run wide unless you gave it some braking to load the front tyres,

Im 5 ft 10 (powerfully built etc) but there was no legroom in the rear seat when I had the driving seat where I needed it, I did see 4 adults in one in LA though,

the locals loved it, even the cops directing traffic commented,
I dont think it would make my top 5 of cars to buy were I in the market.

Edited by bobtail4x4 on Wednesday 26th August 11:16

irocfan

40,471 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
irocfan said:
but was the 3.3 any worse than the equivalent European option at the time?
No, but it clearly wasn't pitched as a performance car. Which frankly is the entire appeal of a Mustang.
but that's just it - the Mustang is not a performance car. It's a car with sporting looks and (depending on specification) sporting potential

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

218 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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bobtail4x4 said:
I had one as a hire car in june, we did nearly 3000 miles,
I had to open the "hood" to look at the engine, yes it was a V6 but it didnt seem that quick, the auto didnt know what gear it wanted to be in half the time,

the handling was a bit floaty, especially at speed, it liked to run wide unless you gave it some braking to load the front tyres,

Im 5 ft 10 (powerfully built etc) but there was no legroom in the rear seat when I had the driving seat where I needed it, I did see 4 adults in one in LA though,

the locals loved it, even the cops directing traffic commented,
I dont think it would make my top 5 of card to buy were I in the market.
Boggo hire car spec cars can't be used as a comparison to a nicely specced V8. It will have been the cheapest model with the tallest axle ratio they do; rumors (and its just that I have nothing to back it up) are the hire cars are slightly detuned as well


Edited by PanzerCommander on Wednesday 26th August 11:11

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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kambites said:
swerni said:
It's going to be a niche player over here.
yes Anything without a diesel option will be a niche player in the UK. I doubt they have huge sales expectations though.
This^.

To be honest I'd prefer them not to sell a huge number as it means they'll be a rare sight on the roads plus resale should be higher.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

141 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Check out the market fortune of previous Ford coupes in UK,
  • Probe
  • Cougar
  • Puma
On the positive side they are clearly hoping they've reinvented the Capri. Time will tell.
He does make a good point though. Ford have traditionally struggled to sell coupes in the UK. I suppose anyone wanting a coupe body wants something a bit flasher than a Ford. And thats when the coupe wasn't horrifically expensive to run (i'm sorry but any 5.0l engine isn't going to lightly sip fuel)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most of the later Capris tiny engined dogs, with a few good big power halo models to help shift them? Based on sales of the Mustang this doesn't appear to be happening.

Glad the Mustang is coming to the UK, don't think ( as most Ford nuts seem too) its the second coming of Christ. For what its worth my fictious £35k would be on a used C63.


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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bobtail4x4 said:
I had one as a hire car in june, we did nearly 3000 miles,
I had to open the "hood" to look at the engine, yes it was a V6 but it didnt seem that quick, the auto didnt know what gear it wanted to be in half the time,

the handling was a bit floaty, especially at speed, it liked to run wide unless you gave it some braking to load the front tyres,

Im 5 ft 10 (powerfully built etc) but there was no legroom in the rear seat when I had the driving seat where I needed it, I did see 4 adults in one in LA though,

the locals loved it, even the cops directing traffic commented,
I dont think it would make my top 5 of card to buy were I in the market.
I often wonder if the rental cars are a softer spec or limited. The V6 should be pretty peppy and certain with the manual clocks some pretty impressive speed stats.

This might not be the case, and I haven't yet driven the latest variants, so don't really know.

rehab71

3,362 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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bobtail4x4 said:
I had one as a hire car in june, we did nearly 3000 miles,
I had to open the "hood" to look at the engine, yes it was a V6 but it didnt seem that quick, the auto didnt know what gear it wanted to be in half the time,

the handling was a bit floaty, especially at speed, it liked to run wide unless you gave it some braking to load the front tyres,

Im 5 ft 10 (powerfully built etc) but there was no legroom in the rear seat when I had the driving seat where I needed it, I did see 4 adults in one in LA though,

the locals loved it, even the cops directing traffic commented,
I dont think it would make my top 5 of cars to buy were I in the market.

Edited by bobtail4x4 on Wednesday 26th August 11:16
The rentals wouldn't have the 'Handling Package' which is standard on the UK cars.